Bob Crane,  Forestland Experts! 715-204-9671 (Woodland Management Service / Woodland Real Estate, EXP)

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Debbie Reynolds, C21 Platinum Properties
Platinum Properties- (931)771-9070 - Clarksville, TN
The Dedicated Clarksville TN Realtor-(931)320-6730

I am not really concerned about how others earn points. The management will get it all figured out and there will always be gamers. I would like some way to report people that are copying and pasting content. That is wrong and reflects badly on the site overall.

Jul 23, 2015 12:58 PM
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Praful Thakkar
LAER Realty Partners - Andover, MA
Andover, MA: Andover Luxury Homes For Sale

Bob Crane - we are here for two reasons - blogging for business and making friends. And points are for self-appreciation.

I admit - I like points and I work hard for that, I go above and beyond the limit set for rewarding the comments or answers. However, the purpose is - involvement. Points are by-product that keeps on motivating many of us, even when they don't agree!

And I hope that is not wrong.

Jul 23, 2015 02:14 PM
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Evelyn Johnston
Friends & Neighbors Real Estate - Elkhart, IN
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I don't care how you earn your points, as long as I can earn mine faster...LOL

Jul 23, 2015 01:19 PM
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Lisa Von Domek
Lisa Von Domek Team - Dallas, TX
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Hello Bob,

The only thing that bothers me is the robo-answers on posts...you know the ones "great post, thanks for sharing - have a great weekend".  

But, do have a great weekend! 

Jul 24, 2015 12:41 AM
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Troy Erickson AZ Realtor (602) 295-6807
Good Company Real Estate - Chandler, AZ
Your Chandler, Ahwatukee, and East Valley Realtor

Bob - I'm with you, I don't track how anyone else earns their points, wouldn't even know how to do it, and I really don't care. I enjoy this platform and the people on it. I personally feel that the points hold me more accountable.

Jul 23, 2015 03:56 PM
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Jill Murty, Realtor - Orange County, CA
Sunset Properties, Powered by Movoto - Laguna Niguel, CA

I wandered to the newbie page one day and saw a few of the same people making the same comments to one newbie after another.  They were the same people and comments I got when I first joined.

It comes across as disingenuous to me.  Looking back, I feel silly for responding though I didn't know better at the time.

The people who consistently and habitually comment twice on a blog where it's obviously for points kind of bug me, too.

Jul 23, 2015 02:45 PM
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Debbie Laity
Cedaredge Land Company - Cedaredge, CO
Your Real Estate Resource for Delta County, CO

I don't care how others earn their points. I'm not here for the points...they are for fun, and I do set personal point goals for myself. I also think the points are just ONE reason this community stays so active. They appeal to our competitive nature, and real estate professionals are competitive by nature. 

I'm here for many reasons. I came here to set up a referral system for myself. That has worked for me. I've done a few referrals this year and AR made it easy for me to find an agent. I'm also here to get my name out there on google. That is also working for me. I'm also here to have fun and make friends. That is also working for me. 

I'm happy to call you one of my AR friends, Bob. 

Jul 23, 2015 02:42 PM
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Mike Rock
Complete Design - Granite Bay, CA
Granite Bay Luxury New Construction...For Less

i am brand new, so my view is eschewed , but i thought points were stupid at first. but i now think its fun. it also makes me aware to be a part of the community and to give back as well as receive

Jul 23, 2015 02:24 PM
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Anita Clark
Coldwell Banker Access Realty ~ 478.960.8055 - Warner Robins, GA
Realtor - Homes for Sale in Warner Robins GA

I focus on things I can control...blogging for biz and sharing social media tips with fellow Rainers. Thinking about, tracking, watching, or blogging about other Rainer accumulation of points (and how they got them) is a waste of valuable time (IMO).

Jul 24, 2015 01:06 AM
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Sandy Padula and Norm Padula, JD, GRI
HomeSmart Realty West & Lend Smart Mortgage, Llc. - Carlsbad, CA
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Points, Schmoints. Who cares! The Q & A Section has added another level of relaxed interchange.

Jul 23, 2015 11:58 PM
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Richard Robibero, e-Pro, ABR, SRS
Panorama R.E. Limited - Toronto, ON
Selling Your Home as if it were My Own!

I don't care. Never have never will. Agents that are gaming the system for points.... congrats, you just won the Internet!

Jul 23, 2015 11:22 PM
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Wayne Zuhl
Remax First Realty II - Cranford, NJ
The Last Name You'll Ever Need in Real Estate

Points are irrelevant to me, except as a measure of how engaged we are with the other members of AR.

There are members who are point grubbers. Like everything in life, you get out what you put in. I'm not affected by them.

Jul 23, 2015 09:44 PM
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Coldwell Banker Realty - Charlotte, NC
Your Greater Charlotte Realtor

I don't do this for points--they are just a by-product. And I don't care what other people do to get their points--it's just not that impactful to my life!

Jul 23, 2015 09:05 PM
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TeamCHI - Complete Home Inspections, Inc.
Complete Home Inspections, Inc. - Brentwood, TN
Home Inspectons - Nashville, TN area - 615.661.029

 Good  Friday morning Bob.  as long as people earn their points fair and square I don't care. I don't like anybody gaming the system. To me, it is akin to cheating. I don't like cheaters.

Jul 23, 2015 07:12 PM
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John Pusa
Berkshire Hathaway Home Services Crest - Glendale, CA
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Bob, I don't pay attention on other members activities to earn points. Sometimes, more activities help higher ranking with Google.

Jul 23, 2015 01:57 PM
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Noah Seidenberg
Coldwell Banker - Evanston, IL
Chicagoland and Suburbs (800) 858-7917

No Bob, I like the SEO for market reports sure but the friendships are invaluable. I have really enjoyed our conversations, how else would we have met?

Jul 23, 2015 12:57 PM
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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Hi Bob -- this is a first world problem.  Points are an incentive for many and they are nice to "collect".   I don't care how others earn points.

The reason I keep coming back here has less to do with points and more about the things I learn and the relationships that have been formed plus the business that blogging has brought me.  

Jul 24, 2015 01:11 AM
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Joe Petrowsky
Mortgage Consultant, Right Trac Financial Group, Inc. NMLS # 2709 - Manchester, CT
Your Mortgage Consultant for Life

Good morning Bob. The points have nothing to do with why I participate with AR. When I first got started, I didn't even know about the points, they didn't matter then, they don't today.

Jul 23, 2015 07:21 PM
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Wanda Kubat-Nerdin - Wanda Can!
Red Rock Real Estate - St. George, UT
So Utah Residential, Referral & Relocation REALTOR

Bob, I love this platform and would blog without the points system in place. I do notice the copy-paste commenting but pay little attention to what others are doing to drive their numbers up.

Jul 24, 2015 07:28 AM
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William Feela
WHISPERING PINES REALTY - North Branch, MN
Realtor, Whispering Pines Realty 651-674-5999 No.

I don't' care so much about the points it is the information.   I also don't care how people get the points.

Jul 24, 2015 03:14 AM
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Scott Leaf Personal Real Estate Corporation
Keller Williams Elite Realty, Port Coquitlam, BC - Port Coquitlam, BC
Scott Leaf & Associates Real Estate Team

Quite honestly I used to do it for the points, now I just do it for SEO for my business and to learn, I lurk way more then I used to but I do thank AR for helping me get to be one of the top 1% in my board for units sold. Now to stay there...

Jul 24, 2015 01:07 AM
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Ralph Gorgoglione
Maui Life Homes / Metro Life Homes - Kihei, HI
Hawaii and California Real Estate (310) 497-9407

Yes, some people are definitely point driven because they feel that being higher up in the rankings increases their leverage for referrals.  But to track other members point history I think is a bit obsessive.

Jul 24, 2015 12:52 AM
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Michael Setunsky
Woodbridge, VA
Your Commercial Real Estate Link to Northern VA

Bob Crane There is always someone who figures a way to game the system. I don't really pay any attention to them.

Jul 23, 2015 11:41 PM
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Annette Lawrence , Palm Harbor, FL 727-420-4041
ReMax Realtec Group - Palm Harbor, FL
Making FLORIDA Real Estate EZ

I am confused.Bob, if you have no concern regarding points, why post a question regarding points.

Clearly you do care about how others 'optimise' their skills to achieve a goal. Is that not what learning is all about, the foundation of AR?

It is time to end this points babble and get AR to address the flood of spam coming out way. THAT just mignt prove to be important. Time to put the AMBASSABORS to work clearing the spam poo from the Q & A pool.

Jul 23, 2015 10:24 PM
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Scott Godzyk
Godzyk Real Estate Services - Manchester, NH
One of the Manchester NH's area Leading Agents

Bob there will always be those who seek a short cut to things and that includes points. The "point" i will make is they are only hurting themselves as the real reason to be active on Active Rain is to attract new business, new buyers, new sellers and by just playing games, they are missing the opportunity to build their business and increase their income. i myself love the points and it is what gave me motivation to rise to the top AR person in NH. 

Jul 23, 2015 10:01 PM
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Randy Mitchelson,APR
Marketing Advisor & Squeeze Mortgage - Bonita Springs, FL
First Impressions are made at First Click

I do not track how others earn points but I enjoy moving up the ranks. If you aren't competitive you are probably in the wrong line of business.

Jul 24, 2015 08:08 AM
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Amanda Christiansen
Christiansen Group Realty (260)704-0843 - Fort Wayne, IN
Christiansen Group Realty

25 of the 30 transactions we closed were because we had more points than the #2 agent in the area.  

He he.  Just kidding.  

I couldn't care less about points anymore.  Points don't bring in business.

Jul 24, 2015 05:22 AM
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Ken's Home Team LLC. | 360.609.0226 | Portland, OR & Vancouver, WA Real Estate Team
Ken's Home Team LLC. - Vancouver, WA
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At first when I joined active rain several years ago, I did, I wanted the SEO.....

now I do it as fun, and educational reasons. 

Jul 24, 2015 02:51 AM
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Ron and Alexandra Seigel
Napa Consultants - Carpinteria, CA
Luxury Real Estate Branding, Marketing & Strategy

Bob,

Like you, it is none of my business what others do.  Gamers exist regardless of what one does.  I am with Debbie Reynolds about copying other sources post.  I have not seen any, and I agree with her, they should be removed.  A

Jul 24, 2015 01:22 AM
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Debra Peters
Referral Realty - Manorville, NY
NY Real Estate Salesperson

I wouldn't say that "I don't care", I would say that if others are gaming the system, it would be a concern to me, but I wouldn't spend time worrying about it. 

I do care about how I run my business and the type of content I post for others to see. 

If I was so concerned about earning points, I wouldn't have time to earn any money. 

Jul 28, 2015 11:14 PM
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Tammy Adams ~ Realtor / Podcaster
Maricopa Real Estate Co - Maricopa, AZ
A Maricopa Agent who Works, Lives & Loves Maricopa

fun reading all of these. It is a rare person who didn't care about those points at one time or another if they are being honest with themselves. As much as I love AR and am a huge fan, back in the beginning the points kept my competitive nature coming back. Through time I came to appreciate the full value of AR. Do I like those that are blatantly abusing the system? Not really but honestly You will always have these folks. If they have that time to do it, then that is less time they are spending on their business so ultimately they lose what is most important.

Jul 24, 2015 08:32 AM
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Sally K. & David L. Hanson
EXP Realty 414-525-0563 - Brookfield, WI
WI Real Estate Agents - Luxury - Divorce

Many us have Bob....you should know that better than anyone....

Jun 06, 2016 11:13 AM
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Ginger Harper
Coldwell Banker Sea Coast Advantage~ Ginger Harper Real Estate Team - Southport, NC
Your Southport~Oak Island Agent~Brunswick County!

No...I want to learn.  I will check points some days...but not every day.

Jul 30, 2015 06:07 AM