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Raymond E. Camp
Ontario, NY
Licensed Real Estate Salesperson Greater Rochester

In my opinion there is a happy balance for both in the 'Rain.

The point system give thoughs with few an incentive to not only get to 500,000 for the free account; but also to get into the top tier of their area.

As to the groups it is up to each individual to accept themselves into it or if it is not fruitful they also may delete themselves.

As I have little money invested and am allowed to participate on my terms it is a great site to belong to.

Unless I win a lot of money and invest it here I will leave it to the money man as to how they wishes it to proceed.

Also taking away both would probably mean a much smaller site and few members.

Feb 26, 2016 01:52 AM
Certified Mobile Notary Signing Agent - Smith Mountain Lake, VA
Highest Ranked Certified Mobile Notary in Virginia

I like groups because it makes it easier finding like minded people for discussions and information.   I like points for motivation and verification of accomplishment.   I don't want either to go away.

Feb 26, 2016 01:40 AM
Ryan Huggins - Thousand Oaks, CA - Thousand Oaks, CA
Residential Real Estate and Investment Properties

I agree with the groups.  I post to a few of them, but not that often (just takes extra time) and I don't read the groups (I spend too much time on here as it is).


The points, I don't think will go away.  Change, yes.  Vanish, no.  It would be hard to judge a free level at that point.

Feb 26, 2016 02:49 AM
Praful Thakkar
LAER Realty Partners - Andover, MA
Andover, MA: Andover Luxury Homes For Sale

Robert 'VEGAS BOB' Swetz - this has been discussed so many times - and both of them are still there!

I am not much for groups - too many 'orphaned' groups and does require better management - so may be, they will go.

Points? It's the heart and soul of ActiveRain! Those people who have, will want to keep it - even when they say they will donate - and those who don't, want to earn points, now that earning points is relatively easy! Once can earn be a millionaire in less than 20 months!

Feb 26, 2016 03:51 PM
Bob Crane
Woodland Management Service / Woodland Real Estate, EXP - Stevens Point, WI
Forestland Experts! 715-204-9671

Groups will die, not because the are not needed but because they have not worked properly for many years, for example the search function that does not work, and no ability to categorize them..

Points however are an Essential and they keep AR Alive and growing while teaching us to be social and blog.  It would be foolish to get rid of them.

Feb 26, 2016 08:33 AM
Ron and Alexandra Seigel
Napa Consultants - Carpinteria, CA
Luxury Real Estate Branding, Marketing & Strategy


If the points fade away, so will Active Rain.  Since 2008, I have personally seen 8 RE blog sites fade away, 2 of which were NAR generated, and one is still hanging there, because they have a zillion ads, and the usual suspects of buy for no $$ down and became rich over night are the main speakers.  A

Feb 26, 2016 03:44 AM
Robert Vegas Bob Swetz
Las Vegas, NV

NOTE:  Please read RAYMOND E CAMP'S comment above. It is by far the (BEST) comment and Raymond is SPOT ON ;o)

Feb 26, 2016 02:19 AM
Carol Williams
Although I'm retired, I love sharing my knowledge and learning from other real estate industry professionals. - Wenatchee, WA
Retired Agent / Broker / Property Manager

Groups either need to be totally revived, revamped or eliminated.   I think points still matter.  Many people have achieved the FREE account status. Others are working toward that.   What incentive would we have to keep blogging here for a monthly fee instead of on our own independent blog for free?  I do believe the incentive to blog here (and invite new members) would diminish.

Feb 26, 2016 01:37 AM
Women of Westchester Working Together
Women of Westchester Working Together - West Harrison, NY
Women helping Women get ahead

Yes to groups and no to points.

Feb 26, 2016 01:23 AM
Candice A. Donofrio
Next Wave RE Investments LLC Bullhead City AZ Commercial RE Broker - Fort Mohave, AZ
928-201-4BHC (4242) call/text

Groups, maybe.

Not points.
Members like them too much.

Feb 26, 2016 01:13 AM
Inna Ivchenko
Barcode Properties - Encino, CA
Realtor® • GRI • HAFA • PSC Calabasas CA

Groups will go away, I agree. 

Points, I hope not very soon. Points make us more competitive and involved with each other posts. 

Feb 26, 2016 04:32 PM
Melissa Jackson
Century 21 Alliance Properties - Azle, TX
Helping You Make The Right Move

I like the groups, easy to find blogs that interest me.  I recently joined and began paying in December. I like the points because of incentives for lower monthly membership and gaining points, climbing up the chain - this is motivation.

Feb 26, 2016 01:39 PM
Michael J. Perry
KW Elite - Lancaster, PA
Lancaster, PA Relo Specialist

Points are the great motivator on AR . I know for fact I would not have the same drive or make the same effort to comment on blog posts without the points !

Feb 26, 2016 11:50 AM
William Feela
Realtor, Whispering Pines Realty 651-674-5999 No.

Groups yes...points I don't think so as AR needs the activity and many would stop without the points

Feb 26, 2016 11:19 AM
Sybil Campbell
Fernandina Beach, FL
Referral Agent Amelia Island Florida

I like groups but don't always post to them.  I think the points motivate us as we are a competitive group.

Feb 26, 2016 11:13 AM
Debbie Laity
Cedaredge Land Company - Cedaredge, CO
Your Real Estate Resource for Delta County, CO

I think we will be seeing the groups going away, but I don't know about the points. Many have admitted the points encourage them to be more active, and AR wants the posts and activity. So I don't think it will cut the points. 

Feb 26, 2016 10:20 AM
Debbie Reynolds, C21 Platinum Properties
Platinum Properties- (931)771-9070 - Clarksville, TN
The Dedicated Clarksville TN Realtor-(931)320-6730

I think you may be right VB. I see the site changing later this year and the intent will be different. It has changed drastically since I first signed up and now looks more like a listing network like It will be interesting to see what changes come to pass but the point system will surely change as it has over the last several years.

Feb 26, 2016 09:44 AM
Dorie Dillard Austin TX
Coldwell Banker Realty ~ 512.750.6899 - Austin, TX
NW Austin ~ Canyon Creek and Spicewood/Balcones

I do feel Raymond E. Camp comment is the best!

Feb 26, 2016 08:09 AM
Toronto, ON

I have not used groups in years.

I think that if AR gets rid of points, it will cause some members to alter the way they use AR.

Feb 26, 2016 06:41 AM
Kat Palmiotti
406-270-3667,, Broker, eXp Realty - Kalispell, MT
Helping your Montana dreams take root

I enjoy "earning" points - it's fun to watch the numbers go up! I would miss them.

As for the groups, I'm thinking they will stay but perhaps in a much reduced form. 

Feb 26, 2016 03:58 AM
Michael Setunsky
Woodbridge, VA
Your Commercial Real Estate Link to Northern VA

Robert 'VEGAS BOB' Swetz I can agree with you about groups fading away, but I don't on points. Points are what gives newbies the motivation to blog and compete with other members. I think they will be here for a while.

Feb 26, 2016 03:21 AM
Joan Dickie
Keller Williams Premier Realty - La Crosse, WI
Keller Williams Premier Realty

I hope points don't go away.  It is still motivation for me to keep posting and commenting, even though I compete against myself in my city and county.  I can see where when you hit a major milestone, the points become less motivating.

Feb 26, 2016 02:38 AM
Allie Angeloni
Long Realty - Oro Valley, AZ

Interesting Question Robert 'VEGAS BOB' Swetz.  So, if the Points leave and the Groups leave, how soon would 'the best' (to me), meaning the most knowledgeable, interesting, and fun people leave?  Would that be an incentive for people to go elsewhere?  Would we no longer have people doing great Blogs?  Interesting . . .     

Feb 26, 2016 02:23 AM
Jeff Dowler, CRS
eXp Realty of California, Inc. - Carlsbad, CA
The Southern California Relocation Dude

I can see the groups disappearing and I don't have any particular feelings about that. Not sure about points going. Maybe they will revamp the system a bit?

Feb 26, 2016 01:36 AM
Kathleen Daniels, Probate & Trust Specialist
KD Realty - 408.972.1822 - San Jose, CA
Probate Real Estate

Based upon the post of yours I just read you may be right about the groups ... not sure about the points. Only time will tell.

Feb 26, 2016 01:19 AM
Nina Hollander, Broker
Coldwell Banker Realty - Charlotte, NC
Your Greater Charlotte Realtor

Groups probably. Points not so much.... if they fade away so will many active Rainers begin to fade away (IMHO).

Feb 26, 2016 10:57 PM
Les & Sarah Oswald
Realty One Group - Eastvale, CA
Broker, Realtor and Investor

Yes to groups and some sort of variation to the point system.

Feb 26, 2016 12:19 PM
Paul S. Henderson, REALTOR®, CRS
Fathom Realty Washington LLC - Tacoma, WA
South Puget Sound Washington Agent/Broker!

I think you are right Robert 'VEGAS BOB' Swetz 

Feb 26, 2016 05:27 AM
Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
Los Angeles Pasadena 818.516.4393

Stuff happens.

So does change.


Feb 26, 2016 11:54 PM
Sam Shueh
(408) 425-1601 - San Jose, CA
mba, cdpe, reopro, pe

I prefer a customer and realtor mingled site like Trulia.

Feb 26, 2016 01:56 AM