670,001
When I heard about that law that was passed in your State, I was actually astonished, baffled, bewildered, perplexed, shocked, stunned and surprised how ANYONE could think that was a good idea.
If people are not held accountable for their actions, what is to deter them from repeating their lawless behavior?
I pray for our nation to realize the strength of our nation depends on decency, honesty and morality as a foundation and to practice those simple virtues and our government to discontinue emboldening those who choose otherwise.
If this continues unabated Richie Alan Naggar it won't be long before a can of soda or a candy bar will exceed the $1,000 limit.
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Kathleen Daniels, Prob...
San Jose, CA
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Richie Alan Naggar
Riverside, CA
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Candice A. Donofrio
Fort Mohave, AZ
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Katina Hargrove 352-55...
Eustis, FL
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Kat Palmiotti
Kalispell, MT
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
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Brian England
Gilbert, AZ
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Bob "RealMan" Timm
Minot, ND
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Thomas J. Nelson, REAL...
La Jolla, CA
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Fred Griffin Florida R...
Tallahassee, FL
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Shayne Stone
Fulshear, TX
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Pete Xavier
Pacific Palisades, CA
2,699,066
As David M. Dwares pointed out, there are at least two factors in play here.
(1) Corporate Policy (coupled with Liability Insurance for that corporation).
(2) California Government.
To the first, we see news stories where a brave store employee tackles a criminal, or points a gun and stops the criminal. But instead of a commendation and a promotion, that employee gets fired.
Corporate logic (oxymoron?) says that the financial risk (liability) to other customers, and even to the heroic employee, is potentially much greater than the cost of the stolen items... so let the thief walk away with the stolen items.
To the second factor:
ARMS ("Hi, ARMS") edited a comment the other day that I made about Politics, so out of respect for ARMS, I will leave Politics out of my reply. Let me just ask, "How much longer can the citizens of your State put up with the rampant crime?" Entire shopping districts gone (San Francisco), countless retail stores and fast food places permanently shuttered.
In my residence State of Florida, or here at my seasonal home in South Carolina, the store staff would be assisted by customers in tackling the brazen shoplifter (and they would probably administer some pre-arrest Justice).
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Candice A. Donofrio
Fort Mohave, AZ
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Katina Hargrove 352-55...
Eustis, FL
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Buzz Mackintosh
Frederick, MD
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Brian England
Gilbert, AZ
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Michael Elliott
Burlington Township, NJ
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Bob "RealMan" Timm
Minot, ND
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Thomas J. Nelson, REAL...
La Jolla, CA
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Shayne Stone
Fulshear, TX
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Pete Xavier
Pacific Palisades, CA
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John Juarez
Fremont, CA
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Greg Large
Grove City, OH
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Richie Alan Naggar
Riverside, CA
610,475
What ever happened to the days where "Don't do the crime, unless you can do the Time!" gone?
We need to start holding people accountable for their actions....
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Kathleen Daniels, Prob...
San Jose, CA
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Candice A. Donofrio
Fort Mohave, AZ
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Katina Hargrove 352-55...
Eustis, FL
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Greg Large
Grove City, OH
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Kat Palmiotti
Kalispell, MT
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
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Brian England
Gilbert, AZ
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Bob "RealMan" Timm
Minot, ND
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Thomas J. Nelson, REAL...
La Jolla, CA
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Shayne Stone
Fulshear, TX
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John Juarez
Fremont, CA
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Richie Alan Naggar
Riverside, CA
1,761,843
That's why crooks are so bold about it, they know there are no consequences.
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Kathleen Daniels, Prob...
San Jose, CA
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Candice A. Donofrio
Fort Mohave, AZ
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Katina Hargrove 352-55...
Eustis, FL
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Kat Palmiotti
Kalispell, MT
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
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Brian England
Gilbert, AZ
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Bob "RealMan" Timm
Minot, ND
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Thomas J. Nelson, REAL...
La Jolla, CA
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John Juarez
Fremont, CA
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Richie Alan Naggar
Riverside, CA
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Shayne Stone
Fulshear, TX
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Michael Elliott
Burlington Township, NJ
5,211,334
Crooks know that there will be no consequences so they will continue to rob stores, people's homes, cars until we have some law and order put into place.
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Kathleen Daniels, Prob...
San Jose, CA
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Richie Alan Naggar
Riverside, CA
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Candice A. Donofrio
Fort Mohave, AZ
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Katina Hargrove 352-55...
Eustis, FL
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Kat Palmiotti
Kalispell, MT
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
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Brian England
Gilbert, AZ
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Bob "RealMan" Timm
Minot, ND
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Thomas J. Nelson, REAL...
La Jolla, CA
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Shayne Stone
Fulshear, TX
301,198
I have heard identical stories. One reason why things are so expensive.
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Kathleen Daniels, Prob...
San Jose, CA
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Candice A. Donofrio
Fort Mohave, AZ
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Katina Hargrove 352-55...
Eustis, FL
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
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Brian England
Gilbert, AZ
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Bob "RealMan" Timm
Minot, ND
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Thomas J. Nelson, REAL...
La Jolla, CA
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John Juarez
Fremont, CA
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Shayne Stone
Fulshear, TX
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Richie Alan Naggar
Riverside, CA
485,828
Not sure how you made the leap from Corporate policy to government. Many companies, including banks, do not want their employees to risk injury or death over theft and also to avoid liablity should someone get injured during the attempt to apprehend the thief.
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Kathleen Daniels, Prob...
San Jose, CA
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Candice A. Donofrio
Fort Mohave, AZ
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Brian England
Gilbert, AZ
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Bob "RealMan" Timm
Minot, ND
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Thomas J. Nelson, REAL...
La Jolla, CA
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Pete Xavier
Pacific Palisades, CA
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John Juarez
Fremont, CA
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Fred Griffin Florida R...
Tallahassee, FL
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Shayne Stone
Fulshear, TX
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Richie Alan Naggar
Riverside, CA
1,412,015
There are laws being changed in CA. now that the consequences of coddling crooks has been found to be a mistake.
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Kathleen Daniels, Prob...
San Jose, CA
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Candice A. Donofrio
Fort Mohave, AZ
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
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Brian England
Gilbert, AZ
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Bob "RealMan" Timm
Minot, ND
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Thomas J. Nelson, REAL...
La Jolla, CA
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Frank Rubi
Metairie, LA
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Shayne Stone
Fulshear, TX
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Georgie Hunter R(S) 58089
Haiku, HI
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Richie Alan Naggar
Riverside, CA
5,246,705
Lack of consequences for bad behavior results in this kind of situation.
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Shayne Stone
Fulshear, TX
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Wanda Kubat-Nerdin - W...
St. George, UT
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Kathleen Daniels, Prob...
San Jose, CA
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Richie Alan Naggar
Riverside, CA
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Candice A. Donofrio
Fort Mohave, AZ
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Fred Griffin Florida R...
Tallahassee, FL
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Bob "RealMan" Timm
Minot, ND
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Katina Hargrove 352-55...
Eustis, FL
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Kat Palmiotti
Kalispell, MT
652,663
Only in California 😨.....elections have consequences lets hope these policies don't spread nation wide!!
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Shayne Stone
Fulshear, TX
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Wanda Kubat-Nerdin - W...
St. George, UT
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Kathleen Daniels, Prob...
San Jose, CA
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Richie Alan Naggar
Riverside, CA
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Candice A. Donofrio
Fort Mohave, AZ
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Fred Griffin Florida R...
Tallahassee, FL
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Bob "RealMan" Timm
Minot, ND
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Katina Hargrove 352-55...
Eustis, FL
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
1,508,541
If we allow bad behavior it will become the norm. Look what has happened to the 10 commandments. All of them are allowed now in one form or another as people just look the other way.
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Shayne Stone
Fulshear, TX
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Wanda Kubat-Nerdin - W...
St. George, UT
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Kathleen Daniels, Prob...
San Jose, CA
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Richie Alan Naggar
Riverside, CA
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Candice A. Donofrio
Fort Mohave, AZ
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Fred Griffin Florida R...
Tallahassee, FL
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Bob "RealMan" Timm
Minot, ND
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Katina Hargrove 352-55...
Eustis, FL
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Brian England
Gilbert, AZ
1,600,181
The Great Architect sees all, you'll pay in this life or the next!
Wow, that’s a🤬 "wild situation". It's really frustrating to see policies like that in place. It feels like we're rewarding bad behavior instead of holding people accountable. The idea that someone can just walk out with nearly $1,000 worth of goods and face no immediate consequences is mind-boggling. It makes you wonder what kind of message we're sending about responsibility and respect for others' property.
It also raises serious concerns about how such policies might impact businesses and communities in the long run. If theft is essentially decriminalized, where does it end? And what happens to the businesses trying to stay afloat, especially smaller ones that can’t absorb such losses?
It's like we're eroding the basic social contract where people are expected to follow the rules for the good of everyone. When those norms break down, it’s not just the stores that suffer—it’s the whole community. It’s a tough situation, and it feels like something’s got to give before things get worse. My store policy would be "If you’re going to steal, you’re going to feel, squarely up your ass, my steel toe and boot heel."
What do you think should be done to address this?
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Ailina Nelson
La Jolla, CA
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Kathleen Daniels, Prob...
San Jose, CA
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Shayne Stone
Fulshear, TX
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Richie Alan Naggar
Riverside, CA
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Kat Palmiotti
Kalispell, MT
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Brian England
Gilbert, AZ
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Michael Elliott
Burlington Township, NJ
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Bob "RealMan" Timm
Minot, ND
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Thomas J. Nelson, REAL...
La Jolla, CA
748,520
I have heard such stories and find it terrible. I was raised to never, ever steal and here are government policies and corporations that are allowing it to happen. Makes the rest of us who play by the rules look stupid.
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Kathleen Daniels, Prob...
San Jose, CA
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Candice A. Donofrio
Fort Mohave, AZ
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
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Brian England
Gilbert, AZ
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Bob "RealMan" Timm
Minot, ND
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Thomas J. Nelson, REAL...
La Jolla, CA
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Shayne Stone
Fulshear, TX
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John Juarez
Fremont, CA
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Richie Alan Naggar
Riverside, CA
3,207,900
I think lots of people don't pay for their auto parts.
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Kathleen Daniels, Prob...
San Jose, CA
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Candice A. Donofrio
Fort Mohave, AZ
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Brian England
Gilbert, AZ
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Bob "RealMan" Timm
Minot, ND
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Thomas J. Nelson, REAL...
La Jolla, CA
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Shayne Stone
Fulshear, TX
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John Juarez
Fremont, CA
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Richie Alan Naggar
Riverside, CA
4,910,809
I would be tempted to go in there and get some free stuff, but I don't think my conscience would allow me to actually go through with it, haha.
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Shayne Stone
Fulshear, TX
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Kathleen Daniels, Prob...
San Jose, CA
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Richie Alan Naggar
Riverside, CA
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Candice A. Donofrio
Fort Mohave, AZ
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Bob "RealMan" Timm
Minot, ND
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Katina Hargrove 352-55...
Eustis, FL
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Greg Large
Grove City, OH
2,485,141
I think it's store policy and not government policy Richie Alan Naggar . I know or local Walmart goes after anyone stealing anything. I have a jail ministry and several inmates are there for stealing less than $1,000.
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Shayne Stone
Fulshear, TX
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Bob "RealMan" Timm
Minot, ND
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Candice A. Donofrio
Fort Mohave, AZ
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Richie Alan Naggar
Riverside, CA
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Katina Hargrove 352-55...
Eustis, FL
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Brian England
Gilbert, AZ
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Brian L. Sirota, Esq.
Orange, CA
800,247
Richie, Fred Griffin Florida Real Estate gave a well-reasoned explanation as to the corporate side of things. However, you may wish to update your premise of the government's posture on this issue.
As John Juarez mentioned, the laws in California have changed, which renders that portion of your question moot.
Published on August 16, 2024:
"Governor Newsom signed into law the most significant bipartisan legislation to crack down on property crime in modern California history. Building on the state’s robust laws and record public safety funding, these bipartisan bills establish tough new penalties for repeat offenders, provide additional tools for felony prosecutions, and crack down on serial shoplifters, retail thieves, and auto burglars. "
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Shayne Stone
Fulshear, TX
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Richie Alan Naggar
Riverside, CA
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David M. Dwares
Fort Lauderdale, FL
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Kat Palmiotti
Kalispell, MT
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Brian England
Gilbert, AZ
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Fred Griffin Florida R...
Tallahassee, FL
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Bob "RealMan" Timm
Minot, ND
1,272,827
You gotta be kidding me is my first reaction. what ever works for them is my well thought out reaction. Government passing laws, I don't really believe that portion
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Kathleen Daniels, Prob...
San Jose, CA
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Brian England
Gilbert, AZ
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Bob "RealMan" Timm
Minot, ND
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Thomas J. Nelson, REAL...
La Jolla, CA
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Shayne Stone
Fulshear, TX
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John Juarez
Fremont, CA
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Richie Alan Naggar
Riverside, CA
5,418,789
It is what it is. Some states are liberal and don't give a damn. Some states think otherwise. Don't think your vote counts, think again. The majority of the voters in your state think differently, move.
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Shayne Stone
Fulshear, TX
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Richie Alan Naggar
Riverside, CA
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Candice A. Donofrio
Fort Mohave, AZ
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Fred Griffin Florida R...
Tallahassee, FL
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Bob "RealMan" Timm
Minot, ND
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Katina Hargrove 352-55...
Eustis, FL
1,529,854
Yes, I forget which law it was but they basically decriminalized crime and theft under $950. There is a bill up for this year's ballot, I think it's AB38, that will reverse much of the soft on crime bill.
Newscum in sacramento signed a few bills recently to penalize repeat offenders to try to take the wind out of AB38's sails, but it's too little too late.
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Kathleen Daniels, Prob...
San Jose, CA
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Bob "RealMan" Timm
Minot, ND
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Shayne Stone
Fulshear, TX
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Richie Alan Naggar
Riverside, CA
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Buzz Mackintosh
Frederick, MD
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Candice A. Donofrio
Fort Mohave, AZ
1,242,662
Sadly, I am of the opinion we, e.g. many, have lost our way and our government tends to encourage it.
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Kathleen Daniels, Prob...
San Jose, CA
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Bob "RealMan" Timm
Minot, ND
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Shayne Stone
Fulshear, TX
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Richie Alan Naggar
Riverside, CA
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Buzz Mackintosh
Frederick, MD
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Candice A. Donofrio
Fort Mohave, AZ
936,113
I cannot even wrap my mind around these policies.
When I was a kid, I pulled the neighbors flowers and my mom marched me over there, made me return the flowers, and apologize. Even as a 3 or 4 year old, I was so embarrassed. And, I never did it again.
I can't even imagine what would have happened had I stolen something from a store.
Parents need to model good behavior to children at a young age.
And, yes, some people will still do bad things. That's where the government steps in.
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Kathleen Daniels, Prob...
San Jose, CA
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Shayne Stone
Fulshear, TX
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Richie Alan Naggar
Riverside, CA
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Candice A. Donofrio
Fort Mohave, AZ
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Bob "RealMan" Timm
Minot, ND
3,234,372
Lawlessness is becoming one of the biggest trends that costs the working class big time. Poor leadership in certain cities across the U.S. has encouraged this type of behavior and worse. Remember the riots and burning, looting, killings during the Summer of Love?
Am so blessed to live where I do, where accountabilitiy for actions, responsible behavior and respect for others are at the forefront! Break the law, get punished. That is necessary for a civilized society and for the safety of Americans.
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Kathleen Daniels, Prob...
San Jose, CA
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Shayne Stone
Fulshear, TX
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Richie Alan Naggar
Riverside, CA
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Candice A. Donofrio
Fort Mohave, AZ
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Bob "RealMan" Timm
Minot, ND
405,304
And our insurance will go up again.
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Kathleen Daniels, Prob...
San Jose, CA
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Shayne Stone
Fulshear, TX
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Richie Alan Naggar
Riverside, CA
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Candice A. Donofrio
Fort Mohave, AZ
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Bob "RealMan" Timm
Minot, ND
3,405,970
Gavin Newskum was "bragging" about that last night ... and how other states limit is higher. How are you only now learning about this, Richie Alan Naggar?
Theft is rampant, as are all kinds of other "crimes" that are no longer crimes.
If that makes you see red, then make sure to VOTE the people advocating for this OUT of office.
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Shayne Stone
Fulshear, TX
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Richie Alan Naggar
Riverside, CA
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Buzz Mackintosh
Frederick, MD
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Bob "RealMan" Timm
Minot, ND
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Kathleen Daniels, Prob...
San Jose, CA
1,090,375
HAHAHAH my thoughts are THAT IS CA NOT AZ!
We have no such soft on crime laws and not only will the crook be apprehended, if they are not found BHC PD WILL post to FB PICS of the asshole for the community to ID and they are almost always eventually caught along with their tweaker illegal crook friends!
Change your legislators and your laws and maybe it's not too late for CA.
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Shayne Stone
Fulshear, TX
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Wanda Kubat-Nerdin - W...
St. George, UT
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Buzz Mackintosh
Frederick, MD
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Bob "RealMan" Timm
Minot, ND
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Richie Alan Naggar
Riverside, CA
6,617,246
That may be a corporation policy that leads to bankruptcy.
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Shayne Stone
Fulshear, TX
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Richie Alan Naggar
Riverside, CA
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Bob "RealMan" Timm
Minot, ND
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Katina Hargrove 352-55...
Eustis, FL
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
2,108,060
It's nice to see them valuing people over profits.
For clarity.. I'm glad to see they are not willing to risk the safety of their employees merely to chase the value of some merchandise running out the door.
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Brian England
Gilbert, AZ
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Brian L. Sirota, Esq.
Orange, CA
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Thomas J. Nelson, REAL...
La Jolla, CA
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John Juarez
Fremont, CA
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Richie Alan Naggar
Riverside, CA
6,051,011
Hi Richie- any parent or teacher or sane human knows that if you reward bad behavior that is what you'll get. We are encouraging thugs and others to ignore the laws because they know they will be let go.
During the planned and $backed riots here in 2020, our law enforcement had to stand there while thugs threw bricks at them. Tell me where is the common sense in that??
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Kathleen Daniels, Prob...
San Jose, CA
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Bob "RealMan" Timm
Minot, ND
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Buzz Mackintosh
Frederick, MD
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Shayne Stone
Fulshear, TX
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Richie Alan Naggar
Riverside, CA
2,277,574
As Johnny Cash would tell the boys "Let's bring it all home". Stealin' is stealin'. If the government condones it, has a threshhold of what is or is not stealing, it's worse than situational ethics CS Lewis labeled.
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Shayne Stone
Fulshear, TX
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Richie Alan Naggar
Riverside, CA
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Kat Palmiotti
Kalispell, MT
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Brian England
Gilbert, AZ
916,963
Didn't you say the clerk said "corporate policy", not government? I think the company is protecting its employees from aggressive customers who might get violent if confronted.
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Kathleen Daniels, Prob...
San Jose, CA
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Bob "RealMan" Timm
Minot, ND
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Shayne Stone
Fulshear, TX
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Richie Alan Naggar
Riverside, CA
587,960
Your experience highlights a troubling trend in our society regarding accountability and personal responsibility. The message sent by lenient policies can foster a sense of entitlement to take without consequence. Every action has consequences, particularly when theft becomes normalized. Such behavior ultimately leads to increased prices for honest consumers like you and me.
In a nation built on laws, morals, and decency, it’s crucial to hold individuals accountable for their actions. When people feel emboldened to take advantage of a system, everyone suffers in the long run. Supporting stores that enforce common decency not only protects their business but also helps maintain fair prices for all shoppers.
The need for a strong ethical framework in our communities cannot be overstated. Promoting responsibility and respect will lead to a healthier society for everyone involved. Your thoughts and observations are valid, and change begins when people like you speak up against injustice.
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Kathleen Daniels, Prob...
San Jose, CA
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Bob "RealMan" Timm
Minot, ND
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Shayne Stone
Fulshear, TX
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Richie Alan Naggar
Riverside, CA
782,069
I feel like the woke society has done what the Conservative society could never accomplish. The Woke has given the proof to all people just how bad things could get if we continue to allow socialism to continue to creep into our policies.
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Richie Alan Naggar
Riverside, CA