Fred Griffin Tallahassee Real Estate, Licensed Florida Real Estate Broker (Fred Griffin Real Estate)

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Candice A. Donofrio
Next Wave RE Investments LLC Bullhead City AZ Commercial RE Broker - Fort Mohave, AZ
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If they are really great at their job . . . I don't sweat it and I am one who hates smelling smoke . . .but I'll pick up after them if need be. Same with the radio  . . . I just close my doors.  
Yeap, they can decide if they want the job or not.

Mar 03, 2021 07:09 AM
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Susie Kay
Ultra Real Estate Dallas Fort Worth - Plano, TX
North Dallas Specialist

No smoking is a good one Fred Griffin Tallahassee Real Estate and I have never thought about that.  

Looks like your contractor is not going to accept the job.

Mar 03, 2021 08:08 AM
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Buzz Mackintosh
Mackintosh REALTORS - Frederick, MD
“Experience, reliable, leadership”

Cigarette clause is a good one. Remember the Notre Dame fire in Paris ?

Mar 03, 2021 08:00 AM
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Karen Climer
Demetree School of Real Estate - Orlando, FL
Teaching people to pass the real estate exam

I think it's fine for you to add whatever clauses you want to when hiring someone.  I also think it is fine for him to decline to accept the business under those terms.

I'm sure that you can find a contractor that accepts your terms.  He will probably also find work from someone who does not require those terms.

Mar 03, 2021 08:20 AM
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Raymond Henson, SRES, GRI
eXp Realty of California, Inc. (lic. #01878277) - Elk Grove, CA
Realtor

As the customer, it is best to find a good match to work with on jobs, especially jobs that will take a long time to finish.  As a long time contractor, I can tell you that little things like being able to play music at a reasonable lever does wonders for worker morale.  And donuts!  Donuts are always a welcome bonus.  😃

Mar 03, 2021 08:20 AM
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J.R. Schloemer, CRS
Kentucky Select Properties - Louisville, KY

I like the smoking contingency. 

I can negotiate the radio.

Mar 03, 2021 11:05 PM
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Brian L. Sirota, Esq.
Bristar Realty (Realtor/Attorney) - Orange, CA
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Fred Griffin Tallahassee Real Estate 

You're the master of your own contract, but what's the plan if your contractor violates a clause mid-construction?    Are the clauses intended as a psychological deterrent or do they have teeth?

Mar 03, 2021 02:51 PM
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Ryan Huggins - Thousand Oaks, CA
https://HugginsHomes.com - Thousand Oaks, CA
Residential Real Estate and Investment Properties

The no smoking is a good one, but not one that has impacted anyone I've hired.  The no music one is not one I'm fond of particulrly.  I don't have a problem with them listening to music as they work, some of it is even pretty good.

Mar 03, 2021 02:31 PM
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Kat Palmiotti
406-270-3667, kat@thehousekat.com, Broker, eXp Realty - Kalispell, MT
The House Kat

I think it's up to any home owner to make whatever rules they wish regarding contractors. It's also up to any contractor to take or not take a job.

I wouldn't mind contractors at my home using music/radio. I would only mind the cigarettes if someone tried to light up inside the house. Outside is fine.  Although I might bring something outside they could use as an ashtray. 

 

Mar 03, 2021 10:49 AM
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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If those are the rules known upfront. . .those are the rules that must be followed or it's onto another job.   

Mar 03, 2021 09:03 AM
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Carol Williams
Although I'm retired, I love sharing my knowledge and learning from other real estate industry professionals. - Wenatchee, WA
Retired Agent / Broker / Property Manager

Good for you! Your house. Your rules!

Mar 03, 2021 08:35 AM
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Will Hamm
Hamm Homes - Aurora, CO
"Where There's a Will, There's a Way!"

Hello fred and i admire you for having a clause written in on this.  Makes sense to me.

 

Mar 03, 2021 08:13 AM
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Kathleen Daniels, Probate & Trust Specialist
KD Realty - 408.972.1822 - San Jose, CA
Probate Real Estate

I do not have an issue with music as long as it is not blaring. 

I take issue with smoking and the fact that I have yet to see someone take the butts with them. Most don't clean up the construction mess. 

Mar 03, 2021 08:09 AM
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Joan Cox
House to Home, Inc. - Denver Real Estate - 720-231-6373 - Denver, CO
Denver Real Estate - Selling One Home at a Time

Fred, I never have thought about doing this, but the no smoking and no loud music, even if they are on the roof are good ones!  

Mar 03, 2021 07:02 AM
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Bob Crane
Woodland Management Service / Woodland Real Estate, EXP - Stevens Point, WI
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All extras end up coming with a cost.

We see govt RFPs that have all sorts of goofy things in them, and the govt generally pays at least triple for most projects since most will not work with them and the contractors that will work with them have all sorts of headaches built into the bid.

Mar 04, 2021 12:22 AM
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Anna Banana Kruchten CRS, CRB, Phoenix Broker
HomeSmart Real Estate BR030809000 - Phoenix, AZ
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Depends on if the house is occupied or not.  Occupied, no music etc and no smolking for sure.  Vacant, music is fine, but no smoking in the property.

Mar 03, 2021 04:07 PM
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Richie Alan Naggar
people first...then business Ran Right Realty - Riverside, CA
agent & author

Smoke when you take a break. Listen to music on break or at lunch. When working, work! No cellphones or distractions! Also, demand pictures before, during and after whihc puts everything to rest. Be flexible and remember the rule: Contracts are only as good as the people behind them. Keep in mind too that simple tradesman have their way of producing results let them while they are there. Concentrate on mission accomplished

Mar 03, 2021 11:09 AM
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Annette Lawrence , Palm Harbor, FL 727-420-4041
ReMax Realtec Group - Palm Harbor, FL
Making FLORIDA Real Estate EZ

It means arrival.

Not arrival into the Twilight Zone but the land of the entitled, elitist and exclusionist.
Every south of the border crew I witnessed building and maintaining America were hard workers, timely, courteous and impecable in policing their workspace.
I would not begrudge these workers doing thankless and extremely difficult work a little music. 
I'm surprised anyone would want to work for someone embracing such pettiness. It is a shame so many are so easily deminished.

Mar 03, 2021 09:42 AM
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Lyn Sims
RE/MAX Suburban - Schaumburg, IL
Schaumburg Real Estate

AMEN to both. I forgot where I was once where the carpet layers or the painters were blasting non-english music for hours during the day. It was very annoying & I didn't want to seem like I was being prejudice.

 

Mar 03, 2021 08:35 AM
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John Juarez
The Medford Real Estate Team - Fremont, CA
ePRO, SRES, GRI, PMN

I am with Greg Large, on this subject.  

Mar 04, 2021 05:57 AM
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Wayne Martin
Wayne M Martin - Chicago, IL
Real Estate Broker - Retired

I have seen clauses similar used in exclusive golf course communities in Florida. They were pretty effective but sometimes hard to enforce. It worked where I was working because of the general contractors.

Mar 04, 2021 04:45 AM
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Brenda Mayette
Miranda Real Estate Group, Inc. - Glenville, NY
Getting results w/ knowledge & know-how!

I like it!  Shows that you're a good neighbor too especially with the number of people working from home...  Their music choice might be awesome but I don't need to hear it while trying to work. 

Mar 04, 2021 04:44 AM
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Kris Collis, Associate Broker
Smart Way America Realty - East Stroudsburg, PA
Professional Results you Expect 570-801-5525

It could be a lot worse Fred.   

attempts to set up devices to record inside, 

take up a room in the house with their tools,

insist on bringing GF and 6 yr old because can't afford sitter, and his "Section 8 rental doesn't allow GF to sit kid at the house."

throw hissy fits publicly and privately

chew and spit in the driveway. 

All turned out to be organized cyber stalkers instructed scene by scene by texts and calls from paid handlers. Anyone not familiar with organized cyber stalking is welcome to check out and join my LinkedIn group, Friends of William Binney and Karen Melton Stewart, or search targeted individuals.

Hissy fitter #1 threw 3 fits demanding to be paid gas money:  publicly at Home Depot, privately in kitchen, on driveway for the neighbors. His GF's email with f word 15xs claimed her hissy fitter ran out of gas on the road.

Hissy fitter #2 also participated in harassment scenes in yard and Home Depot, where my gift card was discovered stolen. Store manager replaced card within 24 business hours.  I dealt with him directly. He emailed he could not identify non-employee harassers poking cells in my direction as cashier and asst mgr insisted they couldn't do anything.  

Cyberstalkers in your home - goals are the same if history is best predictor of future performance.  One goal of several: attempt to incite target to act out so complaint can be filed, police called and eventually declare target unstable and commit them.  Then "legal" docs strangely emerge granting property ownership to persons unknown to owner. Historically (20 yrs) this is mainly perpetrated on single women.  You get the scam.  

These stalkers must have been so disappointed.  The only scene they could create was their own bad behavior destroying their contractor reputation.  They gave themselves away.  Hissy fitter #2 very carefully questioned if I would recognize the perp who stole the gift card.  "Yes, easily recognize him," and you as accessory.  The same hissy fitter told me he could "read minds and knew what I really thought."   I can write a book about dumb psychopathic cyber stalkers!  Lesson learned:  fire their asses a lot sooner. 

Mar 03, 2021 08:37 PM
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Olga Simoncelli
Veritas Prime, LLC dba Veritas Prime Real Estate - New Fairfield, CT
CONSULTANT, Real Estate Services & Risk Management

I'm with you Fred!

Mar 03, 2021 04:50 PM
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Ron and Alexandra Seigel
Napa Consultants - Carpinteria, CA
Luxury Real Estate Branding, Marketing & Strategy

Those clauses are fine by me...Last thing I want is cigarette smoke in my home.  We are a smoke free city as is Santa Barbara...A

Mar 03, 2021 03:46 PM
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Greg Large
ERA Real Solutions - Grove City, OH
A Tradition of Trust

Your House, Your Rules.

Mar 03, 2021 11:56 AM
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Jeff Pearl
RE/MAX Distinctive / LIC in VA - Lovettsville, VA
Full Service Full Time Realtor

Many fires have started from improper disposal of smaoking materials. I have no problem with setting conditions.

Mar 03, 2021 11:50 AM
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Hella M. Rothwell, Broker/Realtor®
Carmel by the Sea, CA
Rothwell Realty Inc. CA#01968433 Carmel-by-the-Sea

Smoking on the job? Municipality would get after them. What about their insurance?  Music? The neighbors would call them in. No loss with that vendor, they are a big risk to you and your reputation I would think.

Mar 03, 2021 11:16 AM
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Eve Alexander
Buyers Broker of Florida - Orlando, FL
Exclusively Representing ONLY Orlando Home Buyers

When someone works on my house, I only want them to be happy so they do a perfect job and don't intentionally screw something up.

Decades ago, I owned a home service business where there were usually workers around so I saw some unsavory things that were done to picky owners...

Like concrete being flushed down the toilet and fiberglass rubbed inside a ladies bra that was on the bed.

I speak with workers to see if they need anything and we always pay the day they are finished...

Eve

Mar 04, 2021 06:04 AM