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Praful Thakkar, Metro Boston Homes For Sale (LAER Realty Partners)

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Rainmaker
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
Pasadena And Southern California 818.516.4393

I offer suggestions, buyers(and sellers) make decisions.  

May 17, 2017 01:25 AM
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Bob Crane
Woodland Management Service / Woodland Real Estate, KW Diversified - Stevens Point, WI
Forestland Experts! 715-204-9671

The agent must direct the client not to do such foolish things. 

Unfortunately many clueless agents still direct their clients to ask for the moon. 

Really need to educate these agents too.

May 16, 2017 09:27 PM
Rainmaker
637,484
Hella M. Rothwell, Broker/Realtor®
Carmel by the Sea, CA
Rothwell Realty Inc. CA#01968433 Carmel-by-the-Sea

They can always buy a washer & dryer, are the buyers willing to lose the bidding because of it?

May 16, 2017 10:59 PM
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Tammy Lankford,
Lane Realty Eatonton, GA Lake Sinclair, Milledgeville, 706-485-9668 - Eatonton, GA
Broker GA Lake Sinclair/Eatonton/Milledgeville

I can make a recommendation they don't ask for it, but in the end buyers decide what I type.

May 16, 2017 09:57 PM
Rainmaker
5,113,121
Nina Hollander, Broker
Coldwell Banker Realty - Charlotte, NC
Your Greater Charlotte Realtor

Why add road blocks to an offer when there are multipple offfers? If the buyer loves the W/D, I'm sure they can buy their own. Are they willing to lose a house they love for the cost of an appliance? Seems rather silly to me.

May 17, 2017 05:14 AM
Rainmaker
1,847,051
Lyn Sims
Schaumburg, IL
Real Estate Broker Retired

I would advise them not to include it for an incentive. 

May 17, 2017 04:49 AM
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Jeff Dowler, CRS
eXp Realty of California, Inc. - Carlsbad, CA
The Southern California Relocation Dude

I would suggest they leave it out to be more competitive but it's their choice

May 17, 2017 03:45 AM
Rainmaker
1,390,113
Wayne Zuhl
Remax First Realty II - Cranford, NJ
The Last Name You'll Ever Need in Real Estate

In a multiple offer situation? Absolutely not, unless it was a deal breaker for the buyer.

May 17, 2017 03:40 AM
Rainmaker
5,772,587
Ron and Alexandra Seigel
Napa Consultants - Carpinteria, CA
Luxury Real Estate Branding, Marketing & Strategy

Praful,

No, I would not insist.  

May 16, 2017 09:47 PM
Rainmaker
5,028,171
Dorie Dillard Austin TX
Coldwell Banker Realty ~ 512.750.6899 - Austin, TX
NW Austin ~ Canyon Creek and Spicewood/Balcones

Hell NO! Do you want the house??

May 17, 2017 07:39 PM
Rainmaker
809,258
Kasey & John Boles
Jon Gosche Real Estate, LLC - BoiseMeridianRealEstate.com - Boise, ID
Boise & Meridian, ID Ada/Canyon/Gem/Boise Counties

No. I would explain any pros and cons to including them in the offer and explain that the sellers didn't specifically include them. The offer may need to be as clean as possuble to win the bid.-Kasey

May 17, 2017 07:38 AM
Rainmaker
7,864,157
Roy Kelley
Retired - Gaithersburg, MD

Provide your advice and follow the instructions of your clients.

May 17, 2017 07:21 AM
Rainmaker
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Candice A. Donofrio
Next Wave RE Investments LLC Bullhead City AZ Commercial RE Broker - Fort Mohave, AZ
928-201-4BHC (4242) call/text

Depends on the strength of the offer otherwise. But overbidding or making additional concessions just to get a washer and dryer makes no sense--why not just buy new ones?

May 17, 2017 05:44 AM
Rainmaker
5,877,915
Joan Cox
House to Home, Inc. - Denver Real Estate - 720-231-6373 - Denver, CO
Denver Real Estate - Selling One Home at a Time

In multiple offer situations, you want to craft an offer as much as possible for the Seller.  If the W/D are excluded, leave them excluded if at all possible.

May 19, 2017 09:34 AM
Rainmaker
991,352
Jennifer Mackay
Counts Real Estate Group, Inc. - Panama City, FL
Your Bay County Florida Realtor 850.774.6582

That is a decsion made BEFORE the offers come in

May 18, 2017 06:33 AM
Rainmaker
599,734
Nathan Gesner
American West Realty and Management - Cody, WY
Broker / Property Manager

Sure. Then maybe they can set the washer and dryer up in their storage space because they won't be getting the home!

May 18, 2017 05:14 AM
Rainer
353,865
Jim Cheney
Saint Francis Property Santa Rosa, CA - Santa Rosa, CA
Rincon Valley Realtor 707.494.1055

I would ask the listing agent if the seller's wanted them, and if they did not, I'd ask to buy them.

May 17, 2017 10:00 PM
Rainmaker
536,943
Rose Mary Justice
Synergy Realty Pros - Dandridge, TN
Synergy Realty Pros

It is not a good idea with multiple offers.   It's been my experience to go higher than necessary just to win the home.  but if they are insistant on doing so,  I would advise even more money for the purchase price.

 

May 17, 2017 08:20 PM
Rainmaker
679,404
Diana Dahlberg
1 Month Realty - Pleasant Prairie, WI
Real Estate in Kenosha, WI since 1994 262-308-3563

Sure, why not.  But I would recommend my buyers write the BEST Offer they are willing to make.  No messing around if they really want the house.

May 17, 2017 08:11 PM
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Fred Griffin Florida Real Estate
Fred Griffin Real Estate - Tallahassee, FL
Licensed Florida Real Estate Broker

  Do they want to buy a house, or a washer and dryer?   Priorities!

May 17, 2017 02:02 PM
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Kathleen Daniels, Probate & Trust Specialist
KD Realty - 408.972.1822 - San Jose, CA
Probate Real Estate Services

I'll do whatever my clients want me to do based upon a fully informed decision factoring in risks of including. 

May 17, 2017 02:01 PM
Rainmaker
716,032
Lynnea Miller
Bend Premier Real Estate - Bend, OR
Premier Real Estate Service in Central Oregon

It is your buyer's offer, but with multiple offers, you council that asking for the washer/dryer may be the tipping point which gets another offer accepted.

May 17, 2017 01:49 PM
Rainmaker
679,335
John Slocum
Premiere Property Group, LLC - Vancouver Washington - Vancouver, WA
Broker, SFR - Vancouver WA Real Estate

No, Nyet, Non, etc.  Resale / Pre-owned inventory is at 1.1 months of supply, with little leverage on the buyer's side.

May 17, 2017 01:34 PM
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Anna "Banana" Kruchten
HomeSmart Real Estate - Phoenix, AZ
602-380-4886

NO!!!  Do they want to win the bid or not?

May 17, 2017 10:52 AM
Rainmaker
542,913
Sean Casey
Patterson-Schwartz Real Estate - Newark, DE
Greenville, Hockessin, Newark & Bear Homes

I would advise against it, but it is their decision.  If they love the washer and dryer more than the house though...

May 17, 2017 10:00 AM
Rainer
19,780
Linda Mindock
Dream Town Realty - Chicago, IL
Representing buyers and sellers in Chicago

If the W/D were not included in the MLS, then the buyer's agent should have advised the buyers of that when initially showing the property. If the W/D were included in the MLS and the sellers changed their mind about including the W/D and the L/A did not change it on the MLS, then the sellers and the L/A would need  to work out an amicable solution with the buyers. If the W/D was not included in the MLS then I would advise my buyers to not insist on it. Best to always check the MLS as to what is included so the buyers can be informed before showing them the property.

May 17, 2017 09:42 AM
Rainer
259,055
Mick Michaud
Distinctly Texas Lifestyle Properties, LLC Office:682/498-3107 - Granbury, TX
Your Texas Lifestyle is Here!

Why do they want someone else's used W/D?  I'd prefer new/clean.  Not to mention they've just dropped their standing in the bidding war.

May 17, 2017 09:41 AM
Rainmaker
5,583,328
Barbara Todaro
RE/MAX Executive Realty - Happily Retired - Franklin, MA
Previously Affiliated with The Todaro Team

no, I'd focus on the house...and only the house...

May 17, 2017 09:39 AM
Rainer
39,867
Elizabeth Murphree
Elizabeth Murphree @ Ikon Realty of Ashburn 5 - Fairfax, VA
Helping Baby Boomers Boom in Northern Virginia!

Whatever works so that the washer dryer are not thrown out. Communication.

May 17, 2017 09:19 AM
Rainer
352,976
Teri Pacitto
Compass - Westlake Village, CA
Real Estate, Your Style...Your Home...My Specialty

I am not a fan of ever asking for personal property in an offer.  Way too many issues and emotions get in the way.  I tell my clients that real property is what we sell only and if it's attached it is probably included, but then again everything needs to be spelled out and written in the contract to avoid issues.   If it ends up transferring with the property it has to be "without warranty" and no monetary value as lenders often have issue with  personal items on the contract.  I suggest that the buyer and seller agree to these things after the deal is done and closed.  Saves a lot of grief. 

May 17, 2017 07:47 AM
Rainmaker
787,865
Abby Stiller
TOP SELLING REALTY - Cape Coral, FL
SW Florida (239) 284-8637

No.

May 17, 2017 06:51 AM
Rainmaker
4,800,132
Gabe Sanders
Real Estate of Florida specializing in Martin County Residential Homes, Condos and Land Sales - Stuart, FL
Stuart Florida Real Estate

If it's indicated that's included in the MLS, yes I would.

May 17, 2017 05:57 AM
Rainmaker
3,071,489
Tony and Suzanne Marriott, Associate Brokers
Serving the Greater Phoenix and Scottsdale Metropolitan Area - Scottsdale, AZ
Haven Express @ Keller Williams Arizona Realty

Why would you if it's not being offered?  Buyer can offer separate bill of sale for those items...

May 17, 2017 05:56 AM
Rainmaker
759,485
Peter Testa
Nationwide Homes - Danbury, CT
PETER TESTA

Usually I stick with the Appliances listed as included on MLS when I write the offer. If they really like the W/D I'd just give the other agent a call & ask them if it's negotiable. 

May 17, 2017 05:55 AM
Rainmaker
1,027,602
Susan Haughton
Long and Foster REALTORS (703) 470-4545 - Alexandria, VA
Susan & Mindy Team...Honesty. Integrity. Results.

While I would make it very clear to them that washhers and dryers are readily available in many, many stores and are not irreplaceable items, at the end of the day, if they really want the house, they will make the right decision. I would remind them that they certainly won't get the W&D if they don't get the house, so why run the risk of losing both? 

May 17, 2017 05:55 AM
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Kat Palmiotti
eXp Commercial, Referral Divison - Kalispell, MT
Helping your Montana dreams take root

I'd do what the buyer wants me to do, after letting them know the folly of their ways.

May 17, 2017 05:49 AM
Rainmaker
853,132
Brenda Mayette
Miranda Real Estate Group, Inc. - Glenville, NY
Getting results w/ knowledge & know-how!

Would insist?  Absolutely not.  Are they insisting?  I'd ask them if they're willing to lose a house over the appliances & explain the harse reality of the multiple offer world.

May 17, 2017 05:39 AM
Rainmaker
4,901,858
Richard Weeks
Dallas, TX
REALTOR®, Broker

I give clients advise, and follow their lawful instructions.  I never insist.

May 17, 2017 05:21 AM
Rainmaker
921,504
Annette Lawrence , Palm Harbor, FL 727-420-4041
ReMax Realtec Group - Palm Harbor, FL
Making FLORIDA Real Estate EZ

At the moment of presenting offer, the W/D should not be stipulated or it could keep the buyer from achieving the most important step.

The negotiations are not over.

It should be noted the listing agent said, "If buyers can see it, they will want it."

And the buyers agent said, "Don't do anything stupid."

There are LOT"S of ways for the buyer to possess the W/D and could prove to be the most expensive depreciating asset ever acquired.

May 17, 2017 05:08 AM
Rainmaker
1,712,776
Joe Pryor
The Virtual Real Estate Team - Oklahoma City, OK
REALTOR® - Oklahoma Investment Properties

Keep it clean.

May 17, 2017 04:43 AM
Rainmaker
4,434,177
Gita Bantwal
RE/MAX Centre Realtors - Warwick, PA
REALTOR,ABR,CRS,SRES,GRI - Bucks County & Philadel

No

May 17, 2017 03:08 AM
Rainmaker
902,038
Olga Simoncelli
Veritas Prime, LLC dba Veritas Prime Real Estate - New Fairfield, CT
CONSULTANT, Real Estate Services & Risk Management

You can try, but that might kill the deal for your buyers.

May 18, 2017 07:41 PM
Rainmaker
4,961,547
Will Hamm
Hamm Homes - Aurora, CO
"Where There's a Will, There's a Way!"

I try to have the sellers always include them.

 

May 18, 2017 07:15 AM
Rainmaker
1,728,256
Sandy Padula & Norm Padula, JD, GRI
HomeSmart Realty West & Florida Realty Investments - , CA
Presence, Persistence & Perseverance

Never; we always recommend a 'clean' offer

May 18, 2017 05:17 AM
Rainmaker
1,624,853
Inna Ivchenko
Barcode Properties - Encino, CA
Realtor® • GRI • HAFA • PSC Calabasas CA

If there is a disclosure that the washer/dryer are excluded, I'd never include them in multiple or not situation. 

May 17, 2017 11:07 PM
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Savvy + Company (704) 491-3310 - Charlotte, NC
The RIGHT CHARLOTTE REALTOR!

NO - it's ultimately up to my buyers to decide but, I would HIGHLY recommend them not ask for anything but, the house (and the usual appointments that convey with a property)!

May 17, 2017 09:42 PM
Rainmaker
3,986,308
William Feela
WHISPERING PINES REALTY - North Branch, MN
Realtor, Whispering Pines Realty 651-674-5999 No.

I don't insist anything...

May 17, 2017 08:11 PM
Rainmaker
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Kevin J. May
Florida Supreme Realty - Hobe Sound, FL
Serving the Treasure & Paradise Coasts of Florida

Hinging a sale on the inclusion of personal property never made sense to me. These must be a spectacular pair of appliances to risk losing a home over.

May 17, 2017 02:48 PM
Rainer
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BRENDA FERRARO
Compass Real Estate - Orange, CA
Sales and Purchases of Residential Real Estate

No, I would make my offer as clean as possible.

May 17, 2017 12:53 PM
Rainer
505,742
Noel Mayer
Upper Montclair Weichert Realtors - Montclair, NJ
YOU WILL BE RIGHT AT HOME WITH NOEL !

I stopped by.

May 17, 2017 10:41 AM
Rainmaker
1,506,163
Ryan Huggins - Thousand Oaks, CA
https://HugginsHomes.com - Thousand Oaks, CA
Residential Real Estate and Investment Properties

I never recommend doing anything that can give the seller a reason to counter, especially in multiples.

May 17, 2017 09:29 AM
Rainmaker
3,988,013
Debbie Reynolds, C21 Platinum Properties
Platinum Properties- (931)771-9070 - Clarksville, TN
The Dedicated Clarksville TN Realtor-(931)320-6730

I encourage buyers to keep the offer clean and not muddy it with requests for personal property, especially in multiple offer situations 

May 17, 2017 09:29 AM
Rainmaker
1,513,143
Raymond E. Camp
Ontario, NY

The worse that could happen is itis turned down or they say no!

May 17, 2017 09:09 AM
Rainmaker
2,784,726
Richie Alan Naggar
people first...then business Ran Right Realty - Riverside, CA
agent & author

Aim for the moon but then.... prepare for a moon landing

May 17, 2017 07:10 AM
Rainmaker
292,685
Jack Lewitz
Exit Strategy Realty - Evanston, IL

Yes and why not tell them to throw in the kitchen sink . In multiple offers it's not about the appliances ... it all about price

May 17, 2017 06:33 AM
Rainmaker
1,466,257
Michael Setunsky
Woodbridge, VA
Your Commercial Real Estate Link to Northern VA

Praful Thakkar Is it worth losing the property over a washer and dryer? Only the buyer can answer this.

May 17, 2017 06:27 AM
Rainmaker
5,240,047
Wayne Martin
Wayne M Martin - Chicago, IL
Real Estate Broker - Retired

Probably not unless the offer was over list price.

May 17, 2017 06:16 AM
Rainmaker
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Harry F. D'Elia III
WEDO Real Estate and Beyond, LLC - Phoenix, AZ
Investor , Mentor, GRI, Radio, CIPS, REOs, ABR

ditch the washer and dryer to win the bid

May 17, 2017 05:43 AM
Rainmaker
3,416,038
Scott Godzyk
Godzyk Real Estate Services - Manchester, NH
One of the Manchester NH's area Leading Agents

It depends of they are listed as included in the MLS. If not, i may tell the buyer to buy their own

May 17, 2017 05:21 AM