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Endre Barath, Jr.
Berkshire Hathaway HomeServices California Properties - Beverly Hills, CA
Realtor - Los Angeles Home Sales 310.486.1002

Craig has been around for about 30 years making his money on selling Magic Bullets, before the Internet was big he was selling his "bullet" with snail mail.. save your money!Endre

p.s.: send that money out via postcards and you will do better Inna

Dec 21, 2016 11:54 PM
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Annette Lawrence , Palm Harbor, FL 727-420-4041
ReMax Realtec Group - Palm Harbor, FL
Making FLORIDA Real Estate EZ

Craig Protor is OLD SCHOOL.

Old School also means knowing how to use words to communicate. A novel concept in a business that is marketing centric.

His agent programs ARE NOT MORE OFFENSIVE than the dialing for dollars mantra of most KW organizations. You need to pick the horse you want to ride.

What I have and continue to find beneficial through the CP programs is the material provided as resources to create a message that resonates with the intended audience. There is no substitute for good copy that compels the right reader to respond in the manner most  beneficial for the agent.

The better news is, races are not much fun if there is only one horse. 

You have a choice. That choice is to  CHOOSE to mine the gold in whatever opportunity is presented. There is gold in the CP programs, but as you will read, some can not find it. No, you do not need to be willing to fill a yard with signs to benefit from a CP program.

 

Dec 22, 2016 04:30 AM
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Candice A. Donofrio
Next Wave RE Investments LLC Bullhead City AZ Commercial RE Broker - Fort Mohave, AZ
928-201-4BHC (4242) call/text

Agree with Endre! Every year we see new agents using the same old tired Proctor tricks. You could probably teach that seminar.

Dec 22, 2016 04:21 AM
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Susan Emo
Sotheby's International Realty Canada - Brokerage - Kingston, ON
Kingston and the 1000 Islands Area

Even though he is Canadian, I can't believe he used any of his tactics up here in his own business or he would have been shut down.  Most of what he advises is not permitted nor is it acceptable in Canada.  And, at this point VERY old school as others have mentioned.  Save your money!

Dec 22, 2016 08:39 AM
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Coldwell Banker Realty - Charlotte, NC
Your Greater Charlotte Realtor

All I've heard about him is he's very expensive and very hard sell.

Dec 22, 2016 05:08 AM
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Raymond E. Camp
Ontario, NY

Sometimes to refresh the ole brain they are ok; it seems there is always one thing that makes it worth the effort.

Dec 22, 2016 04:36 AM
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Dennis Swartz
Full Circle Property Management - Columbus, OH
MBA, GRI...experience counts!

Its good but its a sales pitch to buy his program. I did not know he was still around

Dec 22, 2016 03:03 AM
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Tony and Suzanne Marriott, Associate Brokers
Serving the Greater Phoenix and Scottsdale Metropolitan Area - Scottsdale, AZ
Haven Express @ Keller Williams Arizona Realty

If you are comfortable using marketing similar to:

Beware Of The Asterisk!

then you will consider it money well spent.

If not - then I would not bother with it...

Dec 22, 2016 02:21 AM
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Bob Crane
Woodland Management Service / Woodland Real Estate, KW Diversified - Stevens Point, WI
Forestland Experts! 715-204-9671

Have not attended any of his events, but a free event is likely worth more than you are paying for it.

  • There are sure to be nuggets of info that will inspire.
  • There are sure to be fellow attendees that are worth meeting.

 

Dec 22, 2016 05:49 PM
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Sandy Padula & Norm Padula, JD, GRI
HomeSmart Realty West & Florida Realty Investments - , CA
Presence, Persistence & Perseverance

I guess everyone is entitled to earning a living

Dec 22, 2016 04:19 PM
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Praful Thakkar
LAER Realty Partners - Burlington, MA
Metro Boston Homes For Sale

Inna Ivchenko - I was 'robbed' of about $2K once upon a time... (that's what I think!)

Dec 22, 2016 03:32 PM
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Barbara Todaro
RE/MAX Executive Realty - Happily Retired - Franklin, MA
Previously Affiliated with The Todaro Team

When I was actively listing property, I never spent time with any seminars....time was precious and I had alot of new homes to move...

Dec 22, 2016 12:18 PM
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Ryan Huggins - Thousand Oaks, CA
https://HugginsHomes.com - Thousand Oaks, CA
Residential Real Estate and Investment Properties

Seminars are a fun way to network, get motivated and even the free Tom Ferry ones have a nugget or two you can take from them if you look hard enough (and are open to it).  I have no experience with this vendor, but I suggest looking at it through "my eyes" and going for it, if you can get one of those free tickets.  I wouldn't pay the money if free was being offered.

Dec 22, 2016 12:05 PM
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Carol Williams
Although I'm retired, I love sharing my knowledge and learning from other real estate industry professionals. - Wenatchee, WA
Retired Agent / Broker / Prop. Mgr, Wenatchee, WA

Any seminar can be worth the money if you don't expect it to be THE proverbial magic bullet.  Take away one or two ideas that work for you, your personality and style and then integrate them.  Most seminars get you jacked up, without the follow-up to integration. 

Craig Proctor reminds me of the Gold Rush Days.  You know who got rich during the gold rush?  Not the miners.  Those selling picks and shovels to the hoards of people on a mission to get rich quick. Craig sells picks and shovels. 

Dec 22, 2016 08:41 AM
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Olga Simoncelli
Veritas Prime, LLC dba Veritas Prime Real Estate - New Fairfield, CT
CONSULTANT, Real Estate Services & Risk Management

Not much - very "stale" scripts and old-fashioned hard sells.

Dec 22, 2016 08:17 AM
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Kathleen Daniels, Probate & Trust Specialist
KD Realty - 408.972.1822 - San Jose, CA
Probate Real Estate Services

No, Thank you.  

I'd rather watch paint dry.  Thank you.

Dec 22, 2016 08:07 AM
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Jeff Dowler, CRS
eXp Realty of California, Inc. - Carlsbad, CA
The Southern California Relocation Dude

I agree with Endre Barath, Jr. . Save your money and use it wisely elsewhere

Dec 22, 2016 07:27 AM
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Wayne Martin
Wayne M Martin - Chicago, IL
Real Estate Broker - Retired

Pass on many of these so I can focus on business. All have a few ideas but too much time required to extract the good stuff!

Dec 22, 2016 05:32 AM
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
Pasadena And Southern California 818.516.4393

Hi Inna -- I've been to the "free" seminars and can usually find some nugget of information to take away with me.   I have never paid for any product or service from this particular vendor.   They are very consistent with emails and phone calls.  The ability to hit delete has always worked for me but I understand some might find his systems viable.    

Dec 22, 2016 05:20 AM
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Joe Pryor
The Virtual Real Estate Team - Oklahoma City, OK
REALTOR® - Oklahoma Investment Properties

It doesn't work for me but I know it does for others. I am not fond of the we will buy your home if it doesn't sell pitch however.

Dec 22, 2016 05:07 AM
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Lyn Sims
Schaumburg, IL
Real Estate Broker Retired

Well, I just think that overall they are just going to try to sell you his system. I don't even know anyone that uses it or follows him. 'Way back'  he was successful & I believe the top guy in Canada.

Dec 22, 2016 04:32 AM
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Savvy + Company (704) 491-3310 - Charlotte, NC
The RIGHT CHARLOTTE REALTOR!

Don't let them convince you to spend a dime, Inna Ivchenko - it's a sales gimmick/seminar and they will convince you that they have the best shiny program that will make you a HUGE success...NOT TRUE! 

Dec 22, 2016 08:27 PM
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William Feela
WHISPERING PINES REALTY - North Branch, MN
Realtor, Whispering Pines Realty 651-674-5999 No.

I have not everlistined to him

Dec 22, 2016 07:29 PM
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Gabe Sanders
Real Estate of Florida specializing in Martin County Residential Homes, Condos and Land Sales - Stuart, FL
Stuart Florida Real Estate

I've never listened or used them.

Dec 22, 2016 05:28 PM
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John Pusa
Glendale, CA

Inna Ivchenko I attended the Craig Proctor RE seminars, but did not signed for the products.

Dec 22, 2016 04:47 PM
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Jill Murty, Realtor - Orange County, CA
Movoto - Laguna Niguel, CA

Like most things, it can be good if you work the program.  

The seminar I attended a number of years ago was a major sales pitch.  The two people with whom I attended the seminar, bought the program and were unhappy.  

Dec 22, 2016 11:33 AM
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FN LN
Toronto, ON

He is from my area.  I have attended some of his free seminars over time (same content, just went multiple times for refreshers).  I also went to one of his less expensive seminars but did not participate in his expensive seminars or other add-on products.

I had wanted to understand how someone like him did things from a Canadian (or more specifically a local person) rather than listening to an American since the way many things are done in the USA are different than in my area and I could also relate to his local stories.

Dec 22, 2016 10:19 AM
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Jennifer Mackay
Counts Real Estate Group, Inc. - Panama City, FL
Your Bay County Florida Realtor 850.774.6582

No thank  you

Dec 22, 2016 09:30 AM
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Teri Pacitto
Compass - Westlake Village, CA
Real Estate, Your Style...Your Home...My Specialty

Choose the method that mirrors the way you do business.  I have found that most of these seminars focus on selling something that you won't use and often don't need to succeed. 

Think about your business and how you have been getting business until now.  Focus on how to get more of what you have been doing successfully and fine tune that method.  

Going off track into new territory that might not even be who you are might cause you to loose what you already have.  

There is no magic bullet...except for the one selling them to you.  

Dec 22, 2016 09:26 AM
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Patricia Kennedy
RLAH@properties - Washington, DC
Home in the Capital

Brian Buffini and Joe Stumpf are my two favorites.

Dec 22, 2016 09:15 AM
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Les & Sarah Oswald
Realty One Group - Eastvale, CA
Broker, Realtor and Investor

I joined Craig Proctor when I first started in the business. He is a top producer out in Canada. His products and seminars are not cheap...to say the least. But if put into action, it does work. I know a broker out in Alhambra who practices his bus tour, flyer presentation, guarantee promises...he is now the #1 agent in the city. However, it seems to me that it only works during an appreciating market. 

Dec 22, 2016 08:18 AM
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Will Hamm
Hamm Homes - Aurora, CO
"Where There's a Will, There's a Way!"

Craig Protor was good years ago but not sure about now.  I still like Tom Ferry for his knowledge.  Watch him free at Tom Ferry You Tube and see what you think.

 

Dec 22, 2016 08:16 AM
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Gita Bantwal
RE/MAX Centre Realtors - Warwick, PA
REALTOR,ABR,CRS,SRES,GRI - Bucks County & Philadel

Not tried it.

Dec 22, 2016 08:10 AM
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Ron and Alexandra Seigel
Napa Consultants - Carpinteria, CA
Luxury Real Estate Branding, Marketing & Strategy

Inna,

Save your money!

Dec 22, 2016 06:59 AM
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Richard Weeks
Dallas, TX
REALTOR®, Broker

Not a fan

Dec 22, 2016 06:37 AM
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Michael Setunsky
Woodbridge, VA
Your Commercial Real Estate Link to Northern VA

Inna Ivchenko Craig Proctor has been around for a long time. Be prepared you will get flooded with his emails. The only way I stopped receiving his emails was when I changed from Comcast to FiOS.

Dec 22, 2016 06:12 AM
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Fred Griffin Florida Real Estate
Fred Griffin Real Estate - Tallahassee, FL
Licensed Florida Real Estate Broker

 Nothing personal against Craig Proctor, but it's always the same old same old.  They lure you in with "free", then they sell you the $500 plan, then you are pushed to move up to more coaching or training that costs many thousands of dollars. 

 Save your money.

Dec 22, 2016 06:07 AM
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Roy Kelley
Retired - Gaithersburg, MD

I have  not used them.

Dec 22, 2016 05:27 AM
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Scott Godzyk
Godzyk Real Estate Services - Manchester, NH
One of the Manchester NH's area Leading Agents

I think they are all a waste of time and money, having a good mentor within the company you work for, is a great everyday source of help and motivation 

Dec 22, 2016 05:26 AM
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Catherine Coy
Vista Pacific Realty - Huntington Beach, CA
Reverse Mortgage Purchase

Alas, I spent $9,000 to hear the same old tired marketing techniques and hard sell closings that have been used since the MLS was as big as a phone book.  No, Craig, it doesn't matter where on the postcard the recipient's address is placed.  No, Craig, Facebook responders aren't "raising their hand" to hear from me.  The cat walked across their keyboard and that turned into a "lead" that I pay for.  C'mon, man, you figured out a long time ago that it's far more profitable to sell your so-called system from a stage than be a real estate agent. 

If anyone's interested in coaching, I suggest Ricky Carruth's FREEEE coaching called Zero to Diamond.  Check out his dozens of videos on YouTube, implement some of the strategies he suggests and see what happens.  Nothing ventured; nothing gained, but at least your wallet won't be lighter by $9,000.

 

Sep 09, 2019 01:34 PM
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Charles Stallions
Charles Stallions Real Estate Services - Pensacola, FL
850-476-4494 - Pensacola, Pace or Gulf Breeze, Fl.

I am always amazed that the movers and shakers of our industry do not chime in on these type programs maybe they are out selling while we are bashing them LOL. A/R has their own now in Ben Kinney has anyone tried his MAgic Bullets yet. 

Nov 22, 2018 04:58 AM