How many real estate brokers and agents can tell me what a Patent Deed is and or Land Patent?

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Nina Hollander, Broker

Coldwell Banker Realty - Charlotte, NC

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It's essentially a granting of land from some "sovreign" entity.

Jul 23, 2016 10:18 PM

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Candice A. Donofrio

Fort Mohave, AZ
Robert Vegas Bob Swetz

Las Vegas, NV
Dorie Dillard Austin TX

Austin, TX

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Pete Xavier

Investments to Luxury - Pacific Palisades, CA

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Original title granted by the government (Land Patent). Guessing your client's grandfather received title directly from the government.

Minutes later...

Interesting, just looked up (Wiki) some more details, of which I didn't know. Just knew in general about Land Patents prior to this.

Jul 23, 2016 04:35 PM

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Candice A. Donofrio

Fort Mohave, AZ
Robert Vegas Bob Swetz

Las Vegas, NV
Lyn Sims

Schaumburg, IL

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Candice A. Donofrio

Next Wave RE Investments LLC Bullhead City AZ Commercial RE Broker - Fort Mohave, AZ

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:: raises hand :: LOL
We deal with patented mining claims periodically in my area. Without those recorded patents, you do not own all the rights to the land, and may be required to lease from the government with limitations on use.

Jul 24, 2016 01:55 AM

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Pete Xavier

Pacific Palisades, CA
Robert Vegas Bob Swetz

Las Vegas, NV

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Robert Vegas Bob Swetz

Las Vegas, NV

Origins of Land Patents

The concept of the land patent originated in the early days of the American Republic. As has been well documented, the United States acquired its lands by entering into various treaties with its former owners. While it's perfectly reasonable to pass judgment on the means by which early American governments obtained much of the country's area, the fact remains that the treaties that established those governments' claims to the land are technically in force to this day.

As the United States grew, the General Land Office was tasked with managing and disbursing the country's treaty-acquired lands. By issuing land patents to landowners and settlers who applied for them, the office essentially transferred the rights conferred by the treaty to these individuals. These rights were held in perpetuity and said to take precedence over any subsequent legal strictures, including state laws and constitutional clauses.

Jul 24, 2016 01:35 AM

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Pete Xavier

Pacific Palisades, CA
Robert Vegas Bob Swetz

Las Vegas, NV

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Sam Shueh

(408) 425-1601 - San Jose, CA

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Howard Hughes purchase of Redrocks was a patent deed. Bought it for its iron content for $0.25 an acre.

Jul 24, 2016 01:32 AM

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Candice A. Donofrio

Fort Mohave, AZ
Robert Vegas Bob Swetz

Las Vegas, NV

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Dorie Dillard Austin TX

Coldwell Banker Realty ~ 512.750.6899 - Austin, TX

NW Austin ~ Canyon Creek and Spicewood/Balcones

Nina Hollander knows the answer..thanks Nina!

Jul 23, 2016 11:29 PM

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Robert Vegas Bob Swetz

Las Vegas, NV
Nina Hollander, Broker

Charlotte, NC

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Praful Thakkar

LAER Realty Partners - Burlington, MA

Metro Boston Homes For Sale

Robert Vegas Bob Swetz - love the question - and learned from the answers. Thanks for posting this question.

Jul 24, 2016 04:20 PM

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Robert Vegas Bob Swetz

Las Vegas, NV

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Anthony Acosta - ALLATLANTAcondos.com

Harry Norman, REALTORS® - Atlanta, GA

Associate Broker

Parked and reading.

Jul 24, 2016 10:09 AM

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Patricia Kennedy

RLAH@properties - Washington, DC

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This sounds like one of those questions on a licensing exam that your forget once you've passed!

Jul 24, 2016 03:52 AM

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Robert Vegas Bob Swetz

Las Vegas, NV

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Barbara Todaro

RE/MAX Executive Realty - Happily Retired - Franklin, MA

Previously Affiliated with The Todaro Team

I don't know....but there's alot I don't know.... I'll be the first to admit it!!

Jul 23, 2016 11:38 PM

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Robert Vegas Bob Swetz

Las Vegas, NV

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Bob Crane

Woodland Management Service / Woodland Real Estate, KW Diversified - Stevens Point, WI

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Thanks for the lesson VB, this was not covered in the Wisconsin Lic classes.

Jul 23, 2016 11:31 PM

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Robert Vegas Bob Swetz

Las Vegas, NV

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Lyn Sims

Schaumburg, IL

Real Estate Broker Retired

Not me, we are an attorney state & I can honestly say I've never heard of it.

Jul 23, 2016 09:37 PM

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Nina Hollander, Broker

Charlotte, NC

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Peter Mohylsky, Destin BeachPro

PMI. Destin - Miramar Beach, FL

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I need to Google this one as well.

Jul 23, 2016 07:59 PM

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Nina Hollander, Broker

Charlotte, NC

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Kathleen Luiten

Resort and Second-Home Specialist - Princeville, HI

Kauai Luxury Ocean Home Sales

I remeber reading about them when studying land grants in California. Yes, very interesting.

Jul 23, 2016 05:56 PM

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Pete Xavier

Pacific Palisades, CA

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William Feela

WHISPERING PINES REALTY - North Branch, MN

Realtor, Whispering Pines Realty 651-674-5999 No.

I have not seen or heard of this in eons.

Jul 24, 2016 12:29 PM

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Fred Griffin Florida Real Estate

Fred Griffin Real Estate - Tallahassee, FL

Licensed Florida Real Estate Broker

I had a general idea... after reading the answers on this page, I have a thorough understanding. Thanks for the education!

Jul 24, 2016 10:19 AM

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Michael Jacobs

Pasadena, CA

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I may have learned the term while studying for my real estate license but like many things that were taught, I have never had the need(at least yet) to actually use.

Jul 24, 2016 05:50 AM

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Ryan Huggins - Thousand Oaks, CA

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I've never heard of them. Very interesting sounding though.

Jul 24, 2016 02:53 AM

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Evelyn Johnston

Friends & Neighbors Real Estate - Elkhart, IN

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I hope you write a blog post on this Robert Vegas Bob Swetz and tagg me in it so I don't miss it.

Jul 24, 2016 02:48 AM

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Michael Setunsky

Woodbridge, VA

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Robert Vegas Bob Swetz I have not come across a patent deed.

Jul 23, 2016 11:31 PM

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Tony and Suzanne Marriott, Associate Brokers

Serving the Greater Phoenix and Scottsdale Metropolitan Area - Scottsdale, AZ

Coldwell Banker Realty

Off to Google...

Jul 23, 2016 10:04 PM

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Roy Kelley

Retired - Gaithersburg, MD

Not many.

Jul 23, 2016 09:45 PM

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Gita Bantwal

RE/MAX Centre Realtors - Warwick, PA

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I will check it out.

Jul 23, 2016 09:15 PM

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It's essentially a granting of land from some "sovreign" entity.
Original title granted by the government (Land Patent). Guessing your client's grandfather received title directly from the government.

Minutes later...

Interesting, just looked up (Wiki) some more details, of which I didn't know. Just knew in general about Land Patents prior to this.
:: raises hand :: LOL
We deal with patented mining claims periodically in my area. Without those recorded patents, you do not own all the rights to the land, and may be required to lease from the government with limitations on use.
Origins of Land Patents

The concept of the land patent originated in the early days of the American Republic. As has been well documented, the United States acquired its lands by entering into various treaties with its former owners. While it's perfectly reasonable to pass judgment on the means by which early American governments obtained much of the country's area, the fact remains that the treaties that established those governments' claims to the land are technically in force to this day.

As the United States grew, the General Land Office was tasked with managing and disbursing the country's treaty-acquired lands. By issuing land patents to landowners and settlers who applied for them, the office essentially transferred the rights conferred by the treaty to these individuals. These rights were held in perpetuity and said to take precedence over any subsequent legal strictures, including state laws and constitutional clauses.
Howard Hughes purchase of Redrocks was a patent deed. Bought it for its iron content for $0.25 an acre.
Robert Vegas Bob Swetz - love the question - and learned from the answers. Thanks for posting this question.
This sounds like one of those questions on a licensing exam that your forget once you've passed!
I don't know....but there's alot I don't know.... I'll be the first to admit it!!
Thanks for the lesson VB, this was not covered in the Wisconsin Lic classes.
Not me, we are an attorney state & I can honestly say I've never heard of it.
I remeber reading about them when studying land grants in California. Yes, very interesting.
I had a general idea... after reading the answers on this page, I have a thorough understanding. Thanks for the education!
I may have learned the term while studying for my real estate license but like many things that were taught, I have never had the need(at least yet) to actually use.
I hope you write a blog post on this Robert Vegas Bob Swetz and tagg me in it so I don't miss it.
Robert Vegas Bob Swetz I have not come across a patent deed.