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Rainmaker
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Ron and Alexandra Seigel
Napa Consultants - Carpinteria, CA
Luxury Real Estate Branding, Marketing & Strategy

Yes, we know it well...there was a famous case in San Francisco, where years later the seller of a property found that another friend of his had made an offer on his home, but had never seen it.  The agent who had done had died.  The seller sued the broker..."Let the master answer!".  I shudder at companies who have 60 plus agents, and one managing broker...We knew everything our agents were up to.  Ron reviewed everything...A

Jun 28, 2016 09:15 AM
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Anna "Banana" Kruchten
HomeSmart Real Estate - Phoenix, AZ
602-380-4886

Barabara I posed this very question in a CE class recently and not many knew what it was - until after I explained it. 

Jun 28, 2016 08:44 AM
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Carol Williams
Although I'm retired, I love sharing my knowledge and learning from other real estate industry professionals. - Wenatchee, WA
Retired Agent / Broker / Prop. Mgr, Wenatchee, WA

I am familiar with this and mindful of it.  That is why my mind is boggled that so many brokers hire new agents and send them to the wolves without proper training.  They are responsible for the actions of their "children".  Scary!!!

Jun 28, 2016 08:37 AM
Rainmaker
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Lise Howe
Keller Williams Capital Properties - Washington, DC
Assoc. Broker in DC, MD, VA and attorney in DC

You are completely correct

Jun 28, 2016 12:30 PM
Rainmaker
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Hella M. Rothwell, Broker/Realtor®
Carmel by the Sea, CA
Rothwell Realty Inc. CA#01968433 Carmel-by-the-Sea

How often have I heard, even here on AR, that an agent feels they are an "independent contractor" and never (mostly) talks to their broker. How does that broker supervise this agent?

Jun 28, 2016 09:35 AM
Rainmaker
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Kathleen Luiten
Resort and Second-Home Specialist - Princeville, HI
Kauai Luxury Ocean Home Sales

Yes I know this one and pay attention to it. Broker beware if any of your agents fail in their duties or violate the rules!

Jun 28, 2016 06:59 PM
Rainmaker
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FN LN
Toronto, ON

I was not familiar with this rule so I Googled it.  Wikipedia says it is a US legal doctrine.  Accordingly, since the legal systems in our great nation are different, it would not apply.  Legal counsel in Canada would be able to advise if a similar rule exists in our great nation under common law, civil law and in each of our jurisdictions.

Jun 28, 2016 05:13 PM
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Bob Crane
Woodland Management Service / Woodland Real Estate, KW Diversified - Stevens Point, WI
Forestland Experts! 715-204-9671

A great learning opp question Barbara.

Jun 28, 2016 03:27 PM
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Jeff Dowler, CRS
eXp Realty of California, Inc. - Carlsbad, CA
The Southern California Relocation Dude

I would assume this would still apply to contractors?

Jun 28, 2016 03:22 PM
Rainmaker
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Praful Thakkar
LAER Realty Partners - Burlington, MA
Metro Boston Homes For Sale

Barbara Todaro - the brokers goal should be hiring RIGHT agents - and not just any agents who may bring in lawsuits to the brokerage. After all, they are the 'owners' of all problems...

Jun 28, 2016 03:21 PM
Rainmaker
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Debbie Laity
Cedaredge Land Company - Cedaredge, CO
Your Real Estate Resource for Delta County, CO

I'm very in touch with my broker about what I'm doing. He's great about being there for us, too. 

Jun 28, 2016 12:32 PM
Rainmaker
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Debbie Reynolds, C21 Platinum Properties
Platinum Properties- (931)771-9070 - Clarksville, TN
The Dedicated Clarksville TN Realtor-(931)320-6730

I am well aware of this though I don't think the broker is as attentive as he should be.

Jun 28, 2016 11:36 AM
Rainmaker
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Sam Shueh
(408) 425-1601 - San Jose, CA
mba, cdpe, reopro, pe

In our house the vocal one get to say what she pleases..... My vote sometimes does not count.

Jun 28, 2016 11:34 AM
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Patricia Kennedy
RLAH@properties - Washington, DC
Home in the Capital

My broker is certainly mindful of this, and she works hard to keep us in line!

Jun 28, 2016 11:13 AM
Rainmaker
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Allie Angeloni
Long Realty - Oro Valley, AZ

In a regular office, this is where the employer is responsible for the employee's actions, if whatever happened, took place while they were in the workplace.  I do not know what it means in the real estate workplace Barbara Todaro - so I'm reading and learning below!

Jun 28, 2016 10:23 AM
Rainmaker
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Sandy Padula & Norm Padula, JD, GRI
HomeSmart Realty West & Florida Realty Investments - , CA
Presence, Persistence & Perseverance

Basic law 101. I believe most business people are well aware of the common law term.

Jun 29, 2016 12:55 AM
Rainmaker
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Will Hamm
Hamm Homes - Aurora, CO
"Where There's a Will, There's a Way!"

I am amaze that brokers do not teach agents.

Jun 29, 2016 12:05 AM
Rainmaker
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Michael Setunsky
Woodbridge, VA
Your Commercial Real Estate Link to Northern VA

Barbara Todaro I knew this rule and definitely subscribe to it. Admittedly, I had to look it up. I didn't know the Latin phrase.

Jun 28, 2016 11:41 PM
Rainmaker
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Wayne Martin
Wayne M Martin - Chicago, IL
Real Estate Broker - Retired

Yes, and as a managing broker let everyone know!

Jun 28, 2016 11:28 PM
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Olga Simoncelli
Veritas Prime, LLC dba Veritas Prime Real Estate - New Fairfield, CT
CONSULTANT, Real Estate Services & Risk Management

Yes, mindful, but would hope that "vicarious liability" would not apply to independent contractors, as it is not intended to.

Jun 28, 2016 11:19 PM
Rainmaker
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Scott Godzyk
Godzyk Real Estate Services - Manchester, NH
One of the Manchester NH's area Leading Agents

It is beyond comprehension the amount of untrained agents running around. The bigger get bigger and hence the problem in some circles.

Jun 28, 2016 10:26 PM
Rainmaker
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Tony and Suzanne Marriott, Associate Brokers
Serving the Greater Phoenix and Scottsdale Metropolitan Area - Scottsdale, AZ
Haven Express @ Keller Williams Arizona Realty

We run everything past our Broker...

Jun 28, 2016 10:20 PM
Rainmaker
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Lyn Sims
Schaumburg, IL
Real Estate Broker Retired

Go for a post on this.

Jun 28, 2016 10:17 PM
Rainmaker
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Gita Bantwal
RE/MAX Centre Realtors - Warwick, PA
REALTOR,ABR,CRS,SRES,GRI - Bucks County & Philadel

We have a great Broker and does a good job of managing agents.

Jun 28, 2016 10:07 PM
Rainmaker
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Susan Laxson CRS
Palm Properties - La Quinta, CA
Realtor in San Diego, CA & Naples, FL

I agree with Roy Kelley - this would make an important educational post!

Jun 28, 2016 09:52 PM
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Jennifer Mackay
Counts Real Estate Group, Inc. - Panama City, FL
Your Bay County Florida Realtor 850.774.6582

Most brokers IMO tend to ignore this - I seldom speak with my broker unless there is an issue they need to be aware of.

The problem arises IMO that we are independent contractors, and brokers enforce this attitude, but do not follow it. Example is when they require floor duty, which negates the independent contractor contract.

Brokers with 100's of agents - it's impossible for them to monitor every agent and every transaction

Jun 28, 2016 09:22 PM
Rainmaker
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Roy Kelley
Retired - Gaithersburg, MD

This will be a good blog topic for you.

Jun 28, 2016 09:10 PM
Rainmaker
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Ryan Huggins - Thousand Oaks, CA
https://HugginsHomes.com - Thousand Oaks, CA
Residential Real Estate and Investment Properties

I'm not familiar with it by name, but I am familiar with the principle as discussed here.

Jun 28, 2016 10:03 AM
Rainmaker
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Dorie Dillard Austin TX
Coldwell Banker Realty ~ 512.750.6899 - Austin, TX
NW Austin ~ Canyon Creek and Spicewood/Balcones

Yes I am. Our Broker indeed makes us mindful of this rule!

Jun 28, 2016 09:46 AM
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Fred Griffin Florida Real Estate
Fred Griffin Real Estate - Tallahassee, FL
Licensed Florida Real Estate Broker

      I have a Broker friend who just spent $20,000 in legal fees, because of the actions of one of her agents.  It was not covered by E&O.

Jun 29, 2016 07:53 AM
Rainmaker
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
Pasadena And Southern California 818.516.4393

Respondeat Superior very similar to Mother Superior.  I believe eyes in the back of the head is a requirement and an innate ability to be all-knowing.     

Jun 29, 2016 02:24 AM
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Harry F. D'Elia III
WEDO Real Estate and Beyond, LLC - Phoenix, AZ
Investor , Mentor, GRI, Radio, CIPS, REOs, ABR

I had a mentor for two years before I went out on my own.

Jun 28, 2016 10:49 PM