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Lise Howe, Assoc. Broker in DC, MD, VA and attorney in DC (Keller Williams Capital Properties)

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Joe Petrowsky
Mortgage Consultant, Right Trac Financial Group, Inc. NMLS # 2709 - Manchester, CT
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Good morning Lise. The book was outstanding, the movie was done very well, a topic that many of us saw first hand.

Unfortunately the legislation gave Wall Street the ability to create the market for these loans started in the Clinton administration. The greed that resulted was out of this world.

Apr 09, 2016 07:17 PM
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Marco Giancola
Beachfront Realty - Miami Beach, FL
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Yes I did Lise and I was surprised on how it was all planned out and packaged. I felt like Steve Carrels character, I was in the game but shocked at what was going on at the same time. Of course I was in FL where the worst fraud was taking place-saw it everyday. People who were literally still wet (if you catch may coastal drift)would come to me with pre approval letters for $500K and I was shaking my my head, thinking "how"?

Apr 09, 2016 08:37 PM
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Ryan Huggins - Thousand Oaks, CA
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No, waiting for netflix.  People shouldn't have been surprised, if they did their homework.  No method to keep stated income loans honest.  Crazy true story, I had a 45k/yr job and I was pre-qualed at $1,000,000 for a loan.  I did the math and I couldn't afford to put gas in my car to get to work if I bought the house.  Yet people did thinking the market would never stop rising...

Apr 09, 2016 02:20 PM
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Michael Jacobs
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Lise -- I did see it and thought it was a good movie but didn't go far enough. The "interview" scenes where a celebrity was matched with an economic expert was clever.   

Apr 09, 2016 11:39 PM
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Lyn Sims
Schaumburg, IL
Real Estate Broker Retired

I saw it a few weeks ago & I wondered if people would really understand the gravity of what happened. I don't think they will.

Looked up the stars on Redbox & that pretty much confirmed it. People don't get it unless you're in a related business.

Apr 09, 2016 10:26 PM
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Gita Bantwal
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It is on my list.

Apr 09, 2016 09:20 PM
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Kathleen Luiten
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Have not had a chance to see it yet. I've heard it has been revelatory for many people.

Apr 09, 2016 06:16 PM
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Jeff Dowler, CRS
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Haven't seen it. If it's out on DVD I might

Apr 09, 2016 02:39 PM
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Lisa Von Domek
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Yes, and anyone that didn't understand the meltdown should see it / read the book. 

Apr 09, 2016 01:46 PM
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Scott Godzyk
Godzyk Real Estate Services - Manchester, NH
One of the Manchester NH's area Leading Agents

I do think there needs to be a mortgage product for true self employeed. However even with the 80/20 loans. Too many of those buyers just walked away from their homes and mortgages as they had nothing invested

Apr 10, 2016 12:05 AM
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Joe Pryor
The Virtual Real Estate Team - Oklahoma City, OK
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When they repealed Glass-Stegall they also made it where derivatives could not be regulated.

Apr 09, 2016 10:44 PM
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Wayne Martin
Wayne M Martin - Chicago, IL
Real Estate Broker - Retired

No surprise. Greed trumped honesty and the rest is history!

Apr 09, 2016 09:50 PM
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Debra Leisek
Bay Realty,Inc Homer Alaska - Homer, AK

I intend to see it... people are sure talking about it!

Apr 09, 2016 06:51 PM
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Inna Ivchenko
Barcode Properties - Encino, CA
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I did not see the movie yet, but definitely will watch. Thanks for a suggestion. 

Apr 09, 2016 05:05 PM
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Melissa Jackson REALTOR
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Yes, I finally watched it.   Was interesting.

Apr 09, 2016 03:57 PM
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Steve McRory
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Funny how everyone seems to forget the massive roll that realtors played in the melt down. 

 

As a Florida Mortgage Broker who was there, I recall realtors shopping frantically for  No DOC-I/O-Neg. AM loans to push their buyers into the absolute highest priced homes they could with no regard for their buyer’s ability to afford the home, all for financial gain.

 

All those realtors, with all the many years of experience which they’re so quick to tell you they have, these self-proclaimed “Mortgage Experts” suddenly playing ignorant as they watched the Mortgage Brokers, who they’d have shunned and would not have even sent them business had they not been able to offer those loans to their buyers, be used as the Scapegoats and endure the witch hunt that followed!

 

I can just imagine in 2005 a Mortgage Broker telling a buyer’s agent selling a $600,000 making $18,000 to $36,000 real estate commission of a buyer who they just met…”Maybe it’s best in the long run for you reason with your buyers to consider dropping  down to a $250,000 home, put 20% down on a 15y fixed rate"

 

 How much business would realtors have sent to Mortgage Brokers who had that conservative mindset back during that time? 

 

Apr 23, 2016 10:54 PM
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Joan Cox
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One of my friends rented this from Netflix and invited a few of our real estate industry friends over Saturday night.  VERY good movie!  

Apr 12, 2016 09:30 AM
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Tammy Lankford,
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I haven't seen it.  I will wait for it to hit red box.  I don't do pay per view.

Apr 10, 2016 02:51 PM
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Debbie Laity
Cedaredge Land Company - Cedaredge, CO
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I do want to see this one. 

Apr 10, 2016 12:35 PM
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Ron and Alexandra Seigel
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Lise,

No not yet, I am waiting for a day when I need to feel depressed by what went on...LOL A

Apr 10, 2016 12:27 PM
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Debbie Reynolds, C21 Platinum Properties
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I have not seen it but would like to. 

Apr 10, 2016 11:55 AM
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Larry Johnston
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I have not yet seen the movie, but plan on it.

Apr 10, 2016 09:37 AM
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Barbara Todaro
RE/MAX Executive Realty - Happily Retired - Franklin, MA
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good old Clinton Days..... deregulate the banks and voila!!!

Apr 10, 2016 06:17 AM
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Michael Thacker - Re/Max Real Estate Center - Louisville
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No, but I plan to watch it soon. Just have too many other tasks on my plate right now for TV time.

Apr 10, 2016 06:06 AM
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Gabe Sanders
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We should all have known better, now that I look back at it.

Apr 10, 2016 05:19 AM
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Carol Williams
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I've heard it's good.  It is on my "To Watch" list.  

Apr 10, 2016 05:18 AM
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Patricia Kennedy
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I watched it a few months ago and thought they did a great job explaining what happened. 

Apr 10, 2016 05:11 AM
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Kathy Streib
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Larry doesn't want to watch since, as a builder, he lived it.  We actually saw about half of it but had to leave early (another laughable story)

Apr 10, 2016 04:46 AM
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Kathleen Daniels, Probate & Trust Specialist
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I have not seen it yet.  Had plans to watch (comcast $5.99 for me) on Friday but it did not happen.  I may watch it this evening. 

Apr 10, 2016 01:59 AM
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Richie Alan Naggar
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When the Clinton administration deregulated banking laws, that was an all out invite for the foxes to dine lavishly on fresh hen..all you can eat too. Thieving and looting took place, not business or Real Estate. Disgusting

Apr 10, 2016 01:41 AM
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Sandy Padula & Norm Padula, JD, GRI
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Bundled securities continue to be a problem in world economies. Nothing was learned from this. No haven't seen the movie yet as I prefer to deal with the facts versus Hollywood's view of the world.

Apr 10, 2016 01:06 AM
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Candice A. Donofrio
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Oh yes and it is a must see. And agree 10000% that the gov's arm-waving about 'homeownership for all' was a huge part of the mess that followed.

Apr 10, 2016 12:06 AM
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Tony and Suzanne Marriott, Associate Brokers
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Not yet

Apr 09, 2016 10:39 PM
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Roy Kelley
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I have not seen it.

 

Apr 09, 2016 10:23 PM
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Nina Hollander, Broker
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Missed it in the theatres, but on my list of movies to watch on TV.

Apr 09, 2016 10:08 PM
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Bob Crane
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Looking forward to seeing it on netflix.

Apr 09, 2016 02:49 PM
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No.

Apr 09, 2016 02:05 PM