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Rainmaker
2,759,637
TeamCHI - Complete Home Inspections, Inc.
Complete Home Inspections, Inc. - Brentwood, TN
Home Inspectons - Nashville, TN area - 615.661.029

 Good Saturday morning David. I think a lot of the success of the online companies is due to sellers wanting more exposure.

Nov 20, 2015 05:19 PM
Ambassador
5,613,581
Bob Crane
Woodland Management Service / Woodland Real Estate, EXP - Stevens Point, WI
Forestland Experts! 715-204-9671

They can only sell them back to you if you let them.

Nov 20, 2015 06:24 AM
Rainmaker
1,465,977
Michael Setunsky
Woodbridge, VA
Your Commercial Real Estate Link to Northern VA

David Barr As long as real estate agents keep purchasing their leads and using their services, we are stuck with them.

Nov 20, 2015 05:23 AM
Rainmaker
1,172,514
Sam Shueh
(408) 425-1601 - San Jose, CA
mba, cdpe, reopro, pe

People sit on MLS board allows syndicating..... They sells to these sites for a fee. Realtor.com stop selling listings to Z so they go direct.

Until members protest and wake up their income is not where it should be they will continue finding premier agents.  Redfin acts it is their own listing and they bring their own buyers agent with a generous rebate to customers. You notice your name on your listings is barely visible on these folks sites.

 

Nov 20, 2015 05:04 AM
Rainmaker
4,433,809
Gita Bantwal
RE/MAX Centre Realtors - Warwick, PA
REALTOR,ABR,CRS,SRES,GRI - Bucks County & Philadel

I have not paid for leads.

Nov 20, 2015 09:53 PM
Rainmaker
2,007,235
Lise Howe
Keller Williams Capital Properties - Washington, DC
Assoc. Broker in DC, MD, VA and attorney in DC

Good for you David! A topic worth taking on! I stopped paying at least for those leads which are not leads at all! 

Nov 20, 2015 09:36 PM
Rainmaker
1,542,240
Inna Ivchenko
Barcode Properties - Encino, CA
Realtor® • GRI • HAFA • PSC Calabasas CA

I do not buy leads from them. But surprisingly I just had a client who reached out multiple times to ''me'' via Realtor.com and no one ever called him back to show the house. I explained that upset buyer that i never received his emails. 

Nov 20, 2015 03:29 PM
Rainmaker
2,442,558
Evelyn Johnston
Friends & Neighbors Real Estate - Elkhart, IN
The People You Know, Like and Trust!

No, I learned how to come in above them by taking SEO to the Top with Katerina Gasset.

Nov 20, 2015 11:40 AM
Rainmaker
6,858,342
Roy Kelley
Realty Group Referrals - Gaithersburg, MD

You do not have to buy leads from them. They will continue their practices as long as they are profitable.

Nov 20, 2015 09:37 AM
Rainmaker
1,413,594
Ryan Huggins - Thousand Oaks, CA
https://HugginsHomes.com - Thousand Oaks, CA
Residential Real Estate and Investment Properties

These companies, along with the major brokerages, have TONS of money to dominate the top 10 results.  Little companies or independent agents don't have a chance.  Only exception I've seen, is one realtor out here at #10, but he has 150 links pointing into his site from various contractor link exchanges (one exchange gives him a link in EACH state).  Somehow Google hasn't caught on to this, since it violates their rules.

 

But I digress... I always recommend to people NOT to spend the money.  There are ways to game the system, but for the most part those leads are junk anyways.

Nov 20, 2015 07:55 AM
Rainmaker
1,157,535
FN LN
Toronto, ON

No.  Those companies operate in the USA but I am in Canada.

Nov 20, 2015 07:15 AM
Rainmaker
3,986,000
William Feela
WHISPERING PINES REALTY - North Branch, MN
Realtor, Whispering Pines Realty 651-674-5999 No.

I don't buy leads as it is a waste of money and I don't believe in making these companies rich...I am way past Sick of these companies

Nov 20, 2015 07:04 AM
Rainmaker
611,619
David Gibson CNE, 719-304-4684 ~ Colorado Springs Relocation
Colorado Real Estate Advisers LLC - Colorado Springs, CO
Relocation, Luxury & Lifestyle residential

David,
As long as there are so many new agents coming into the business every year, Z & T et al., will probably stay in business. 

Nov 20, 2015 06:18 AM
Rainmaker
912,565
Troy Erickson AZ Realtor (602) 295-6807
Good Company Real Estate - Chandler, AZ
Your Chandler, Ahwatukee, and East Valley Realtor

David - Well, first of all, I am not buying those leads, so they are not getting any of my money. Secondly, I can't tell you what I really think about agents buying other agents listings on those sites because it would be completely bleeped out.

Nov 20, 2015 05:17 AM
Rainmaker
908,513
Annette Lawrence , Palm Harbor, FL 727-420-4041
ReMax Realtec Group - Palm Harbor, FL
Making FLORIDA Real Estate EZ

You need to have the courage to bring this to your broker and franchise. They have the means to fix this. But this practice is beneficial to brokers who CREATED the problem and only effects resources that are completely replaceable....the agent.

Are you ready for a non-mls alternative?  Or do you need a bit more conditioning, further pummeling about the head and shoulders, before you see the clock is ticking.

BH and CB and not far behind is RX, will be the last to allow agents this option.

Nov 20, 2015 04:48 AM
Rainmaker
5,164,950
Joan Cox
House to Home, Inc. - Denver Real Estate - 720-231-6373 - Denver, CO
Denver Real Estate - Selling One Home at a Time

It does not affect me.  I buy no leads, have plenty of business to keep me busy, off the streets and out of trouble.

Nov 20, 2015 04:33 AM
Rainmaker
292,585
Jack Lewitz
Exit Strategy Realty - Evanston, IL

David

i agree local is better but I do not think your business website has the same traffic as Yahoo , Trulia, Redfin or others not mentioned have and you could spend slit of time boosting you SEO and not get anywhere near their numbers. I just think we have the work smarter and seek business elsewhere and remember we have one advantage that these sites don't have and you state it well by saying you are local and have more knowledge about your local market than these site

Nov 20, 2015 03:55 AM
Rainmaker
1,708,135
Joe Pryor
The Virtual Real Estate Team - Oklahoma City, OK
REALTOR® - Oklahoma Investment Properties

Not really. My business model does not depend on a short tale search.

Nov 20, 2015 03:09 AM
Rainmaker
5,764,585
Ron and Alexandra Seigel
Napa Consultants - Carpinteria, CA
Luxury Real Estate Branding, Marketing & Strategy

David,

We are aware of them, and have devise many strategies for our clients to be in control of their own destiny.  They have become no bigger than a  spayed/neutered flea when it comes to their success!  A

Nov 20, 2015 02:40 AM
Rainmaker
924,170
Candice A. Donofrio
Next Wave RE Investments LLC Bullhead City AZ Commercial RE Broker - Fort Mohave, AZ
928-201-4BHC (4242) call/text

I REFUSE to do business with aggregators. You should too. Those ARE YOUR LEADS. And they provide such inaccurate information. My plan to address this is to laugh - out loud - at consumers who use them. 3:)

Nov 20, 2015 02:32 AM
Rainmaker
4,213,008
Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
Los Angeles Pasadena 818.516.4393

Some may call it the Ostrich approach - but I prefer to concentrate on the things where I have control.

Nov 20, 2015 01:48 AM
Rainmaker
4,799,651
Gabe Sanders
Real Estate of Florida specializing in Martin County Residential Homes, Condos and Land Sales - Stuart, FL
Stuart Florida Real Estate

Well, they don't sell those leads back to me, because I'm not buying.  Plus, we have the right to not syndicate to these sites if we so choose.

Nov 20, 2015 01:44 AM
Rainmaker
1,429,516
Raymond E. Camp
Ontario, NY
Licensed Real Estate Salesperson Greater Rochester

It is up to each individual how they spend the money. Most agents are not paying them so they are not using them. As to their engine positions if one wants to pay to get there they can do that as well.

Nov 20, 2015 01:25 AM
Rainer
150,216
Michael Thacker - Re/Max Real Estate Center - Louisville
Re/Max Real Estate Center - The Thacker Group - Louisville, KY
Your best friend who just happens to be a Realtor

Yes, but there is nothing that we can do about it since they are supported by advertisers, as well as the Realtors/Brokers who pay for the leads. They are huge cash machines, and get a huge amount of traffic.

Nov 20, 2015 01:04 AM