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Evelina Tsigelnitskaya
SIB Realty - Sunny Isles Beach, FL

No idea.

Nov 09, 2019 06:10 PM
Bob Crane
Woodland Management Service / Woodland Real Estate, KW Diversified - Stevens Point, WI
Forestland Experts! 715-204-9671

My opinion on project upstream is that I am curious now, what is it

Nov 12, 2015 11:24 AM
Ron and Alexandra Seigel
Napa Consultants - Carpinteria, CA
Luxury Real Estate Branding, Marketing & Strategy


I have been following the story, and I don't know one way or the other.  The software would have to be really good and work really well, so that is a variable.  It looks like a lot of brokerages are involved.  What is comfusing is that it claims not to be an MLS but what is it then?

Upstream is not an MLS or an MLS vendor, simply a way to enter data, store data, modify data and distribute data (even into one’s internal software or devices),” he said.

Managing cooperation and compensation between brokers is not a function of the project, he added. Upstream leaders assume all participants will continue to be members of MLSs.


Upstream will not have the authority to send anyone’s data anywhere or share it with anyone inside or outside Upstream, Cheatham said. Each brokerage will have a distribution dashboard where they will have to intentionally choose where to send their data and handle the licensing agreements that go with each choice.  Inman

It is also supposed to lower the cost and make agents more efficient, and it does not have a public face.  

What do you think?

Nov 12, 2015 08:23 AM
David Gibson CNE, 719-304-4684 ~ Colorado Springs Relocation
Colorado Real Estate Advisers LLC - Colorado Springs, CO
Relocation, Luxury & Lifestyle residential

Craig Cheatham is a personal friend. My suggestion is to wait until Upstream is active in the market place and then judge it. I think you may be very pleasantly surprised.

Nov 13, 2015 10:12 AM
Raymond E. Camp
Ontario, NY

After reading Val Evans three parts it looks like they are truing to get rid of the garbage in garbage out on the internet. probably because too many agents out information in other sites and never updated the information so there became lots of misinformation(homes for sale or sold to name a couple).

As listings are the Broker's it could  work to get rid of misinformation.

The only problem I foresee is trying to make values from a national point of view when there is so many more factors from a local area to take into content.

A very good question and it will be intersting to see what happens.

Nov 12, 2015 11:24 PM
Tony and Suzanne Marriott, Associate Brokers
Serving the Greater Phoenix and Scottsdale Metropolitan Area - Scottsdale, AZ
Haven Express @ Keller Williams Arizona Realty

Your reference to SABRE got my attention.  What "killed" a lot of the travel agencies was the ability of airlines to sell their seats directly to the public via the internet.  Having entered the industry in the latter part of the 1980s - we saw the commissions paid by the airlines dwindle, then evaporate.  Not clear how the concept of airlines eliminating the middleman in seat sales via the Internet translates into the real estate business - unless the Sellers involved have significant inventory (numbers of properties to sell).  

Nov 12, 2015 11:13 PM
Michael Setunsky
Woodbridge, VA
Your Commercial Real Estate Link to Northern VA

Val Evans Curious to see what "Project Upstream" is about.

Nov 12, 2015 10:11 PM
Annette Lawrence , Palm Harbor, FL 727-420-4041
ReMax Realtec Group - Palm Harbor, FL
Making FLORIDA Real Estate EZ

PROJECT UPSRTEAM, on it last definition process, serves only the broker in an effort to mirror the dark side. (a.k.a. national MLS)

Project Upstream does NOTHING in providing the real estate agent or REALTOR more protection or agility to address the concerns facing informed buyers and sellers today. It has become simply more of the turf war with brokers playing BOTH sides and for which agents will pay.

I was hopeful that Project Upstream would be revolutionary, lead by visionaries, but that is not what the end product is going to be. It will look more like when that organization had a relationship to it's namesake. How much are you willing to pay to be FEATURED on Project Upstream?

It is all about the BROKERS.

No relief, protection or solutions for the agent.

Nov 12, 2015 09:53 PM
Lise Howe
Keller Williams Capital Properties - Washington, DC
Assoc. Broker in DC, MD, VA and attorney in DC

Don't know about project upstream.  Please share more information with us!

Nov 12, 2015 09:00 PM
Gita Bantwal
RE/MAX Centre Realtors - Warwick, PA
REALTOR,ABR,CRS,SRES,GRI - Bucks County & Philadel

I learned a lot from the answers here. Thank you.

Nov 12, 2015 08:51 PM
Toronto, ON

I am not familiar with it.

Nov 12, 2015 08:24 PM
Nina Hollander, Broker
Coldwell Banker Realty - Charlotte, NC
Your Greater Charlotte Realtor

The concept has merit, but I don't know enough about it as yet and it's not far enough along for me to opine one way or another.

Nov 12, 2015 08:13 PM
Troy Erickson AZ Realtor (602) 295-6807
HomeSmart - Chandler, AZ
Your Chandler, Ahwatukee, and East Valley Realtor

Val - I have heard of it, but I don't have enough information to determine whether it would be good for our industry or not. I would have to learn, or hear, a lot more about the benefits, features, and why we need it.

As far as SABRE goes for the airline/travel industry, I don't even believe that anyone uses that system anymore, but I could be wrong.

Nov 12, 2015 02:01 PM
Val Evans
Scottsdale, AZ

Here's some information for those of you who might be interested in what your NAR dues are funding. Many of you will probably find the reading a little boring. Since hubby and I are involved in a few tech companies and start-ups—we love this stuff.

Upstream Revealed

Here's Rob Hahn's take on the matter.

Project Upstream (Part 1)

Project Upstream (Part 2)

Project Upstream (Part 3)



Nov 12, 2015 01:59 PM
Sybil Campbell
Fernandina Beach, FL
Referral Agent Amelia Island Florida

I have never heard of "Project Upstream" either what is it?

Nov 12, 2015 12:26 PM
Larry Johnston
Broker, Friends & Neighbors Real Estate and Elkhart County Subdivisions, LLC - Elkhart, IN
Broker,Friends & Neighbors Real Estate, Elkhart,IN

I am not familiar with "Project Upstream", so I don't have an opinion.

Nov 12, 2015 11:08 AM
Blanca Barajas
Winter Group - Las Vegas, NV

I am not aware of that project, I think I'll do some research on it.

Nov 12, 2015 09:54 AM
John Pusa
Glendale, CA

Val, this is great information on "Project Upstream" to share.

Nov 12, 2015 09:52 AM
Karen Fiddler, Broker/Owner
Karen Parsons-Fiddler, Broker 949-510-2395 - Mission Viejo, CA
Orange County & Lake Arrowhead, CA (949)510-2395

I'll admit I just don't know. I'll be interested in the answers. 

Nov 12, 2015 09:00 AM