Debbie Gartner, The Flooring Girl & Blog Stylist -Dynamo Marketers (The Flooring Girl)

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Debbie Gartner
The Flooring Girl - White Plains, NY
The Flooring Girl & Blog Stylist -Dynamo Marketers

Kris Neese I've been seeing strings of questions (often 10 or more). It seems that many are doing this to just gain points, and they aren't real questions.  And, it's flooding out the real questions.  I have to scroll several pages to find them.

All - What do you think the limits should be?  I'm thinking that at the most, points for 5 q's a day...or maybe max of 10 per week. 

Nov 23, 2014 12:02 AM
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Mary Weiss
Zillow Group Mortgages - Seattle, WA
Trainer & Content Manager

I have submitted all of your feedback to the development team for consideration - I agree that there should be limits so that there isn't any abuse in the points area. This will also hopefully help ease finger-pointing on points abuse as well. 

 

Nov 24, 2014 03:27 AM
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Patricia Kennedy
RLAH Real Estate - Washington, DC
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Debbie, I just discovered this!  I might just manage to stay ahead of Lenn for another month!

Nov 23, 2014 11:17 AM
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Debbie Gartner
The Flooring Girl - White Plains, NY
The Flooring Girl & Blog Stylist -Dynamo Marketers

David Saks There are MANY people posting many meaningless questions here.  It's a mess.  What I'm suggesting is that there are daily limits.

Also, BTW, my first comment here was both to add to the question (because there is a limit to characters) and to notify Kris that the board has become a mess over the weekend.  Yes, I did get an extra 25 pts for that.

Personally, I think there needs to be limits on questions (maybe 2 per day/10 per week) as well as points for answers (maybe 10 per day). There also should be limits on points for liking q's/comments and there should not be points for liking your own q's or answers.  I'm not sure if you get that or not (although you would know).

 

Nov 23, 2014 06:41 AM
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Gabe Sanders
Real Estate of Florida specializing in Martin County Residential Homes, Condos and Land Sales - Stuart, FL
Stuart Florida Real Estate

Debbie, yes I see this section deteriorating rapidly.

Nov 23, 2014 01:01 AM
Rainer
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RVA HomePRO Michael Hottman
RVA HomePRO Realtor with Keller Williams serving Hanover, Henrico, Chesterfiled and Richmond, Virginia - Glen Allen, VA
Helping you achieve goals in life & real estate

There probably should be limits on Q&A just like there are with responding to posts. It's so much easier to ask and answer questions than it is to put together a blog post. Sometimes I wish blog post points were weighted based on length because I've seen some really short blog posts.

Nov 24, 2014 12:03 AM
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Debbie Gartner
The Flooring Girl - White Plains, NY
The Flooring Girl & Blog Stylist -Dynamo Marketers

Actually, David, you are a perfect example of someone who is cluttering up the board w/ lots of questions just to get points.  Your questions could easily be combined and many are geared to customers who don't even have access to the forum. 

It doesn't seem like you are getting much engagement from your questions.

Also, not sure what you are insinuating in comment #3.  No, I did not like my own question.  But, now my question, along w/ many other people's questions are getting pushed down the board as you clutter it up.  You did the same thing yesterday as well.

Oh and yes, you and other are welcome to overtake my score.  I don't max out my daily or weekly scores, so it's not hard to do if points are your primary goal.

Nov 23, 2014 01:10 AM
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Tammy Adams ~ Realtor / Podcaster
Maricopa Real Estate Co - Maricopa, AZ
A Maricopa Agent who Works, Lives & Loves Maricopa

I gave a pretty lengthy answer to this on Debbie's question.  I agree though, there should be a limit. If we are going to limit other stuff, might as well limit this too. I actually care more about how they are sorted. I think we need better topics. 

Nov 28, 2014 07:38 AM
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Joan Cox
House to Home, Inc. - Denver Real Estate - 720-231-6373 - Denver, CO
Denver Real Estate - Selling One Home at a Time

@Debbie, glad AR put some limits on the number of questions, and I think it should be even ONE per day.   The chance of gaming the system for points will be less.   I agree that this Q & A section should be NO POINTS, just for a true area to find quick questions.   

Nov 25, 2014 09:46 AM
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Tammy Lankford,
Lane Realty Eatonton, GA Lake Sinclair, Milledgeville, 706-485-9668 - Eatonton, GA
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frankly I wish they would do away with points for questions and reviews.  Then I think we would get litimate questions and reviews.  I can almost guarantee that someone has written reviews for products they never owned.

Nov 24, 2014 09:07 AM
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Cindy Jones
Integrity Real Estate Group - Woodbridge, VA
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Though I have been quiet on AR recently this just seems to be another opportunity for anyone who wants to slam a few hundred or thousands points a week onto their score to abuse.  I agree when I scroll through the questions I don't get what they are supposed to be asking or who they are geared towards.  Those who will abuse the system will continue to do so and protest that they aren't doing anything wrong.

Nov 24, 2014 08:51 AM
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Captain Wayne - Rowlett Real Estate School
Rowlett Real Estate School - Panama City, FL
Rowlett Real Estate School / Owner and Instructor

Looks like they finially got a handle on things.

Nov 24, 2014 04:14 AM
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David Saks
(retired) - Memphis, TN

Debbie, your dodging the issue with indirect references and smokescreen.

In your first original reply, #1, you post to a rainer who didn't comment on this post, and you suggest that the questions are not real questions .

You net 25 points.

Probably alluding to me because of the volume of inquiry.

You amateurishly suggest that "It doesn't seem like you are getting much engagement from your questions."

I wasn't aware that you were trolling my blog entries.

I share plenty with many.

Many of my q & a are directed to other aspects of the industry, i.e., staging, home inspection, appraisal, loan brokerage, etc.

No inquiries about flooring, though that could change.

There's enough toady and lackey convenience on the front page without bringing it here.

I'm not interested in your score, overtaking it or playing a game with you, ever.

Grab some pick up sticks and tiddly winks and have fun with someone else if you think this is a game.

Maybe ActiveRain's not for you.

The only thing cluttered up at this stage is your logic.

Nov 23, 2014 06:05 AM
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Maureen Bray Portland OR Home Stager ~ Room Solutions Staging
Room Solutions Staging, Portland OR - Portland, OR
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You can view who "liked" a comment by clicking on the "number of likes" and their names will pop up ... David Saks 

Nov 23, 2014 05:29 AM
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David Saks
(retired) - Memphis, TN

Can you provide some clear examples of questions that you believe aren't real questions in the q&a section of ActiveRain ?

What specifically about those questions demonstrate that they're not "real questions", as you've stated ?

What is your conception of a real question ?

What would you suggest demonstrates relevance in this forum ?

Are you concerned that this section will become an opportunity for some to advance and overtake your score ?

Your response would really be helpful and might justify your concerns leading to an amicable, well-meant solution for all.

Best wishes.

Nov 23, 2014 12:24 AM
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Jon Kolsky
Kolsky Realty & Management - Long Beach, CA
Licensed California Real Estate Broker

Debbie Gartner ~ it looks like a few folks will be happy.. I just noticed that Kris said there are changes and limits on the way 

Nov 28, 2014 09:25 AM
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Rob Thomas
Prestige Homes of The Tri Cities, Inc. CALL....423-341-6954 - Bristol, TN
Bristol TN-VA & Tri Cities Agent, ABR, GRI, e-Pro

Debbie ...Finally they did ...it was getting way out of hand ...

Have a great Thanksgiving!

Nov 27, 2014 08:37 AM
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Donna Foerster
HomeSmart Realty Group - Parker, CO
Metro Denver Real Estate Assistant

I hope so Debbie and soon. I'm asking legitimate questions and getting very little response. I blame the "gamers" who are causing folks to stay away from this valuable tool.

Nov 26, 2014 09:07 AM
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Debbie Laity
Cedaredge Land Company - Cedaredge, CO
Your Real Estate Resource for Delta County, CO

Hi, Debbie...have limits been put in place? I hope so. I like the term you used earlier to describe the new point situation...point deflation. That says it all. 

Nov 25, 2014 08:20 AM
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Captain Wayne - Rowlett Real Estate School
Rowlett Real Estate School - Panama City, FL
Rowlett Real Estate School / Owner and Instructor

Hi Debbie, you seem to get things done, can you get them to change the default on the home page from most liked to new questions?  It not only looks stagnet, after answering a new questions, when you hit the back button, it takes you back to the home page.

Nov 24, 2014 09:31 PM
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Christine Donovan
Donovan Blatt Realty - Costa Mesa, CA
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Debbie - I learn something new every day. I didn't even know points were available here.

Nov 24, 2014 02:48 PM
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Jon Kolsky
Kolsky Realty & Management - Long Beach, CA
Licensed California Real Estate Broker

Debbie Gartner ~ I don't think everyone sees it the same! Whats abusive to some might be fun for others... What some see as pointless might not be to others... So I think you perspective is a bit on one side of the fence

Nov 24, 2014 02:34 PM
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Debbie Gartner
The Flooring Girl - White Plains, NY
The Flooring Girl & Blog Stylist -Dynamo Marketers

Test...this is weird, I think they may have already made some changes.  I just got 10 pts...it said for "answering someone's queston."  But, I don't remember doing that just now, so maybe they meant for responding to an answer on your own question.  Let's see.

Edit:  yes, that what's it's for. That's better vs. getting 25 pts on your own question.  I have no idea if this is retroactive or not.  I'm guessing not.

Nov 24, 2014 03:03 AM
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Debbie Gartner
The Flooring Girl - White Plains, NY
The Flooring Girl & Blog Stylist -Dynamo Marketers

Yes, RVA HomePRO Michael Hottman they really need to add some limits, esp on asking questions, but also probably on answering.  And, yes, I agree it's way easier to ask a q on here vs. write a blog post.  And, if it's a good q, you continue to get more points as others answer.  Hopefully, they'll address this soon.

Nov 24, 2014 03:01 AM
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Debbie Gartner
The Flooring Girl - White Plains, NY
The Flooring Girl & Blog Stylist -Dynamo Marketers

Patricia Kennedy LOL.  You're both winners in my book.  Let's just hope they add some limits and fast.

Nov 23, 2014 08:51 PM
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David Saks
(retired) - Memphis, TN
ps... I also noticed that the like buttons have been activated twice and there are only two of us in the answer section at this time. Did you like yourself, Debbie, and why ? For the points ?
Nov 23, 2014 12:39 AM
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Praful Thakkar
LAER Realty Partners - Andover, MA
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I remember those days, Debbie.. (yep, coming back to this Q after a long time.)

Apr 22, 2018 10:17 PM
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Debbie Gartner
The Flooring Girl - White Plains, NY
The Flooring Girl & Blog Stylist -Dynamo Marketers

LOL Susan Haughton yes, when I initially wrote this, it got buried in a few minutes (ironic, right?).  And, yes, some of the comments were not so nice.

Nov 29, 2014 10:20 PM
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Susan Haughton
Long and Foster REALTORS (703) 470-4545 - Alexandria, VA
Susan & Mindy Team...Honesty. Integrity. Results.

I just came over here for the first time to see what the section was about...gee, look at all the fun I apparently missed.  You are on top of it, Debbie Gartner, as usual. 

Nov 29, 2014 06:31 AM
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Roy Kelley
Realty Group Referrals - Gaithersburg, MD

Debbie Gartner - I would like to see a section where the members ask questions with answers from the staff. There are too many unknowns and too much uncertainty. 

I fear that the points system intimidates newer members. It is difficult for a new member to imagine reaching two million points.

Nov 29, 2014 02:29 AM
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Debbie Gartner
The Flooring Girl - White Plains, NY
The Flooring Girl & Blog Stylist -Dynamo Marketers

Roy Kelley yes, I do think that removing points for asking q's could help. And, I do agree on pts for answers.  (Your comment above mentioned removing the pt system all together) and do not think that would be a good idea as it would demotivate many.

Nov 29, 2014 01:35 AM
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Roy Kelley
Realty Group Referrals - Gaithersburg, MD

Debbie Gartner - I am certainly not an expert on points motivation theories. However, we might have fewer meaningless questions if there were no points awarded for asking them. It may be easier to justify points for answers. I hope the staff can find the best balance.

Nov 29, 2014 01:30 AM
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Debbie Gartner
The Flooring Girl - White Plains, NY
The Flooring Girl & Blog Stylist -Dynamo Marketers

Roy Kelley I'm not so sure.  I think participation would decrease as the points motivate many to participate/participate more.  I think limits are needed for balance.

Nov 29, 2014 01:04 AM
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Roy Kelley
Realty Group Referrals - Gaithersburg, MD

If they would eliminate the points system, the questions and answers might have more meaningful content.

Nov 29, 2014 01:00 AM
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Debbie Gartner
The Flooring Girl - White Plains, NY
The Flooring Girl & Blog Stylist -Dynamo Marketers

Jon Kolsky oh good.  Glad to hear that.  I must have missed that.  I think they said on the next update they would add some limits.  I just think they needed to find a very quick fix to limit the chaos that was happening over the weekend.

Nov 28, 2014 09:38 AM
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Debbie Gartner
The Flooring Girl - White Plains, NY
The Flooring Girl & Blog Stylist -Dynamo Marketers

Tammy - Yes, they need to add some classifications and better ways to find q' s (e.g. sort) and yes, there should be some limits.  I also think they need to set our own defaults on sorting.  It doesn't seem to save our preferences.

Nov 28, 2014 09:36 AM
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Debbie Gartner
The Flooring Girl - White Plains, NY
The Flooring Girl & Blog Stylist -Dynamo Marketers

Rob Thomas Yes, I'm so glad they made some changes.  I don't think they've put the limits in yet, but they changed the amt of pts for q's from 100 down to 10.  And, answering q's is now 10 pts rather than 25.

Nov 27, 2014 10:34 AM
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Debbie Gartner
The Flooring Girl - White Plains, NY
The Flooring Girl & Blog Stylist -Dynamo Marketers

Donna Foerster yes, it's almost a no win situation.  Many still don't know about this section, and many got turned off by those gaming the section.

Maybe I should do a post about this...and highlight some of the legit questions.

Nov 26, 2014 09:54 AM
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Debbie Gartner
The Flooring Girl - White Plains, NY
The Flooring Girl & Blog Stylist -Dynamo Marketers

Debbie Laity no, they still haven't done limits, but they greatly reduced the points.  It was 100 for asking a question, and now it's only 10; it was 25 for answering and now only 10.  It's more under control now.

Joan Cox I do think they need limits - maybe 1-2 q's per day/max 10/week.  I think giving a small amt of points is good to get some activity, but not the way it was.

Nov 25, 2014 10:10 AM
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Debbie Gartner
The Flooring Girl - White Plains, NY
The Flooring Girl & Blog Stylist -Dynamo Marketers

Cindy - Exactly, many of the q's were pointless...and just done to gain points.  It was several thousand for some. I think they corrected some of this, but I didn't keep track of everyone's scores, so I don't really know for sure.

Nov 24, 2014 11:32 PM
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Debbie Gartner
The Flooring Girl - White Plains, NY
The Flooring Girl & Blog Stylist -Dynamo Marketers

Tammy - OMG, you're probably right.  I did write some reviews, but only for those I knew/used.  I was thinking that I wish I could do more, but couldn't since I wasn't an agent, but I bet that didn't stop others.

Nov 24, 2014 11:30 PM
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Debbie Gartner
The Flooring Girl - White Plains, NY
The Flooring Girl & Blog Stylist -Dynamo Marketers

Captain Wayne Rowlett / Florida Real Estate School Oh how I wish I had more control/influence.  I think this is really from many speaking up.  I so agree w/ you on some of the defaults.  I (and several others) have mentioned ways to improve this...go to Kris Neese's question and provide some feedback there as they are more likely to see the input on that post.

Nov 24, 2014 09:33 PM
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Debbie Gartner
The Flooring Girl - White Plains, NY
The Flooring Girl & Blog Stylist -Dynamo Marketers

Jon Kolsky I respect your opinion, but I respectively disagree.  If you saw what was going on this weekend, it was out of control w/ tons of clutter - many asking 20 or more q's a day, and a few over 40.  It was very challenging to find/answer the questions for those asking more better q's and being more choiceful in their thoughts.

My point here is that there should be some caps on the points to help moderate those that may overuse.  I think it's good to have some points, but the amounts they had (and wo/ limits) was leading to overuse, esp on the question side.  Since they've made the change on points, it has already helped.

Nov 24, 2014 09:32 PM
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Debbie Gartner
The Flooring Girl - White Plains, NY
The Flooring Girl & Blog Stylist -Dynamo Marketers

Christine - Yes, they just started this.  For the 1st couple of days, I was answering some q's and there were no points, but then they were awarded retroactively.  Now, (thankfully), they've reduced the number of points, esp for q's so it is more reasonable.

Nov 24, 2014 09:28 PM
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Debbie Gartner
The Flooring Girl - White Plains, NY
The Flooring Girl & Blog Stylist -Dynamo Marketers

Mary Weiss Thx so much. I'm so glad to hear that.  It looks like you've already made some steps in the right direction.  Things look much better today.

Nov 24, 2014 07:51 AM
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David Saks
(retired) - Memphis, TN

I see Furn Cancannon didn't post but liked.  and so did Dave Hill. I was unaware of this feature and apologize for my unkind ilation, in this respect only.

Nov 23, 2014 06:31 AM
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Bob Crane
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Those limits did a good job of eliminating a lot of stupid questions from the regulars, but we still get them from others.

And a lot less questions overall.

Jun 30, 2019 02:22 PM
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Tony and Suzanne Marriott, Associate Brokers
Serving the Greater Phoenix and Scottsdale Metropolitan Area - Scottsdale, AZ
Haven Express @ Keller Williams Arizona Realty

Praful nailed this one!

May 26, 2018 06:20 AM
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Dipti Thakkar
LAER Realty Partners - Andover, MA
On a team with Praful Thakkar

I wonder why one would ask many questions here in this section.

Apr 20, 2018 09:14 PM
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Ajay Pandya
e-Merge Real Estate - Columbus, OH
Realtor Ajay Pandya

Oh yes!

Sep 17, 2017 09:40 PM
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Debbie Gartner
The Flooring Girl - White Plains, NY
The Flooring Girl & Blog Stylist -Dynamo Marketers

Roy Kelley theoretically, this is a place where the members can ask the staff questions and they can answer.  However, currently, the tagging feature on this section is not working.  I believ Kris Neese knows this and I think they are planning to fix this (hopefully on next update).

I actually think the Q&A section is perfect for newcomers here. and, I think it's a way that they can gain some points.  For newcomers, the goal really should be to get free membership (not to get to 2 million points).

Nov 29, 2014 03:02 AM
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David Saks
(retired) - Memphis, TN

okeedokee

Nov 23, 2014 07:09 AM